Will he? Won’t he? Who should?

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    dandaherron@yahoo.co.ukJust Iron
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    Will Joe run in November ..or won’t he? If he pulls out … or is pulled out .. any suggestions?

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    billpuntonsghostbillpuntonsghost
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    It’s not impossible that Trump will be pulled out ( if you know what I mean) before Biden.

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    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    Would be good for America if both pulled out because a younger candidate with fresher ideas would be better for both parties IMO. Sadly can’t see it happening but a good choice for Democrat would be Gavin Newsom, great debater full of good ideas and would certainly galvanize the country if elected. For the GOP, well not sure but there must be plenty of young contenders, maybe Nikki Haley who would deal in actual policy when speaking to the American public and not just conspiracy theories.

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    Snubbing Kamala Harris in this hypothetical would cause a massive headache with anger, justified or not.

    Personally, I feel it’s late for changing candidates now and don’t think it will happen.

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    billpuntonsghostbillpuntonsghost
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    Gavin Newsom has made California a communist state.Sounds about right in your assessment .

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    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    Fact check: California is not, never has been and never will be a ‘Communist State’. Where on earth do you get your news from bpg? GB News?

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    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    When it comes to conspiracy theories bill is up there with the best.

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    Gavin Newsom, based on his voting record, is one of the least left-leaning voters among the democrats. And the democrats in America are one of the least left-leaning liberal parties globally. He is very far from being a communist.

    The reasons why bpg doesn’t like Newsom is nothing to do with communism, but his Catholicism, his views on abortion and his views on same sex marriage. He may have even worn wool and linen fabrics in one garment at some point, going against the rules of Leviticus and Deuteronomy.

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    May have horns and answers to ‘beelzebub’

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    Biden, signs of dementia.
    Trump, signs of dementia.
    BPG …

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    #287786
    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    Interesting debate promoted by JI pity his nemesis tries to hijack it with waffle as per norm, anybody else got any take on Joe and Don being replaced?, would make a refreshing change all round IMO.

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    Is Trump fit to organise a piss up in a brewery let alone the US?

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    dandaherron@yahoo.co.ukJust Iron
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    ps IA … any rethinking on your comments towards BPG ?

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    ps IA … any rethinking on your comments towards BPG ?

    Regarding his take on Gavin Newsom turning California into a Communist state you mean, no none, complete unfounded waffle and factually incorrect as I’m sure you will agree

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    dandaherron@yahoo.co.ukJust Iron
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    What!!!??? My initial post deleted???? Can the Mod who did that get on here and explain the decision? Once NI posted the disgusting, childish guff and it was publicly aired the ‘conversation’ should have stood.

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    dandaherron@yahoo.co.ukJust Iron
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    I’m definitely not happy ..but I suppose I did invoke the Mods.
    For those who missed it NI lamented that assassins of today aren’t as accurate as those of the 1960s so that now we have a ‘victim’ instead of having a candidate he doesn’t like murdered.
    I labelled this as disgusting …which it is … and said he should grow the hell up ..which he should.

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    ..and I posted how sad it was to read NI’s post.

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    Nowt to do with me! Didn’t even see what you’re moaning about. Maybe NI self censored himself?

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    JI and bpg maybe having a magic mushroom moment, anyhow you could still respond to the point I made JI if you wish.

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    Didn’t see the offending post, but I don’t think it’s time for such jokes or jabs, no matter who the victim is. We should be bigger men than Trump, like when he mocked Paul Pelosi in a hammer attack.

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    Heard Farage exploiting it to bemoan ‘liberals’ rhetoric as a factor. Nothing to say about his dear old pal ‘Donald’ encouraging his Proud Boys and their aggressive armed tendencies.

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    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    Yes I heard Farage on the BBC this morning blaming a lot of main stream media for some of this political hatred spreading, unbelievable really the hypocrisy of the guy when you consider the stuff he comes out with but the majority will realise that Farage rather like Trump loves promoting himself and not the actual genuine picture of events. As for Trump well it was a terrible thing to happen and the actions of the gunman and the failure of the security services should be publicly condemned, TBH it’s a good job the young guy with the gun couldn’t shoot properly because with that rifle and a distance of only 130 metres Trump should really be dead by now, horrendous day for freedom and democracy, the hate speakers of the political world have a lot to answer for, be careful what you say in future publicly all you politicians, whatever your political persuasion.

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    Wonder if he’ll be calling for more accurate rifles in private hands anytime soon.

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    JI and bpg maybe having a magic mushroom moment, anyhow you could still respond to the point I made JI if you wish.

    My response was to NIs lament that Trump didn’t have a JFK experience and you dont need magic mushrooms to be disgusted by that. (I didn’t know non mods could self erase, Deerey. If he did ..then maybe the shame DID kick in).
    IA … I think you knew that the challenge I was making was the ‘conspiracy’ reference that you made to BPG regarding Trump being taken out.
    Your last post above was the most sensible.

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    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    I didn’t realise that JI honest and I would never have thought Trump would be an assassination target, guess that’s a price you sometimes pay in a country that puts the gun above most other things in American society. As for bills Newsom response I take it you have no comment so I’m guessing you agree what he said was waffle. It was rather childish from bill to suggest what he said about California had even a modicum of truth about it.

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    dandaherron@yahoo.co.ukJust Iron
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    I wasn’t referring to Newsom or California … just to Bill’s ref about Trump being taken out and that being dismissed as conspiracy theory. That was all.
    Re California. I don’t think the present Governor has done anything other than a terrible job. If he were to emerge as a Biden replacement then I think his record in California would go against him.

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    I see JI, would you therefore agree with bill that California under Newsom is now a Communist state?

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    dandaherron@yahoo.co.ukJust Iron
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    Not really. I don’t see it in those terms. I think there are new markers and divisions in this era. I would see Gavin Newsom as a ‘progressive’ who rejects Judaeo Christian values, has some authoritarian tendencies and leans towards a globalist rather than nation state template. Some Californians seem to be voting with their feet according to the stats.

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    While there are issues with ‘globalism’ I am not convinced it’s this damning bugbear. Rather him than the controlling anti-globalists, be it De Santis in Florida, Trump or abroad with Orban and his state that has decayed and declined in democratic freedom. I spoke with a Hungarian not so long ago and it’s quite sad how the young are now leaving to escape Hungary, with a ‘brain drain’ occurring.

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    Please let me clarify when I used the phrase Communist State. I apologise for using word Communist ,the word should have been Communistic. Hope that puts to bed the confusion.

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