Enough is enough! PROTEST at GP 8th may

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    There would at some level of the football pyramid.

    #205840
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    There is a danger of belligerence taking over here, which would not help the club. We have to live with Swann as chairman and owner whether people like it or not and a bunch of angry fans descending on GP demanding his head is the last thing the club needs.

    MK Iron put it very well. Swann needs to understand the depth of feeling we have for the club, that supporters are very unhappy with the current situation and that as owner and chairman it’s his responsibility to sort it out.

    I believe it is important that the fans leave Swann in no doubt about the depth of feeling, but people should still take note of what UTI is saying. It won’t help the club one bit if this turns into a “Swann out” vendetta.

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    So you have crap meal at a restaurant do you go back?

    Unfortunately generations will be lost when what’s on offer is not acceptable.

    My father has gone to watch the iron since the 60’s. He could take it or leave it whether he goes back.
    Me this last years has seen me take up more meaningful hobbies that actually repay me in some sense.
    If I only go to GP only to catch up with friends then it’s a poor state.
    Last time I was there whoever we were playing I spent the full match chatting or on my phone due to the nonsense that was in front of me.

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    #205845
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    We’ve been terrible this season just like we were in the season before we signed Mussy, Bara and Crosby, then look what happened.

    That season we had a visit from the Loan Ranger who scored 23 goals in 42 games. We also had a “run through brick walls for the club” CF called Steve Torpey who scored 11 in 43.

    This year we’ve had Ryan Loft and Abo Eisa (9 apiece).

    A quarter of our games have seen one or no shots on target. Can you imagine Torps or McLean going through a game without a pop on goal?

    And as for the players brought in post-haste, well despite starting brightly they have sunk to the depths of uselessness that the rest of the team display.

    But hey, you just keep clapping.

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    ‘I believe it is important that the fans leave Swann in no doubt about the depth of feeling, but people should still take note of what UTI is saying. It won’t help the club one bit if this turns into a “Swann out” vendetta.’

    IMO you are absolutely clueless. You think he’s going to take notice of a well publicised poll? You think we should take notice of UTI99? You think anyone should take any notice of the person who has treated with contempt any legitimate criticisms of the way things are operating and heading over the last few years, but does a volte face when the crisis is deep? No. The more protest, the more ‘moaning and groaning’ as you put it the better. Money is the only thing talking here, and the only thing that will make him change the way he’s operating is if his investment is being sullied. Get the protests going and get it covered by local and national media. Don’t stay away when we’re allowed back in the ground, keep the protest going inside GP. Some may want to shout him out, others may not, the point is the longer any vocal protest continues, the more chance of some change for the better by him doing what’s necessary to ensure we don’t drop down the non leagues.

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    #205858
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    Well said, DM.

    And UTI99, re. fans, customers and the Sky generation – it’s companies like Sky who have been responsible more than anyone for replacing fans with fickle customers. The big money they’ve brought into the game has turned the top clubs into global brands with customers worldwide, the vast majority of whom never actually attend a game.

    Plus, the way TV income is distributed has widened inequality in football, and forced into administration many small clubs like ours, who now really struggle to keep up.

    Local fans have become even more important to these clubs, as they are an important source of income where TV money is relatively small. So, the clubs should be working hard to attract and keep them.

    But, there’s a feeling that SUFC is not doing this; that it’s taking them for granted, angering and alienating them by saying they talk crap, they’re morons, or ‘who cares’ if they leave after 60-odd years, etc. etc. And as if that weren’t enough, season after season we have witnessed a standard of football rarely seen outside public parks.

    Now, for all kinds of reasons, the days of fans suffering in silence have gone. Even ours, who are now planning a protest, which will certainly attract regional and quite possibly national attention.

    I don’t know if all this is a lesson they teach in the business schools, but it’s one the club would do well to learn before it’s too late. But, maybe it already is.

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    #205859
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    Why not team up with Swindon fans there wanting to protest against their owner,with a bit of luck you might get to double figures.

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    Didn’t you once claim to have been a shop steward, AWG?

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    with a bit of luck you might get to double figures.

    The current poll would suggest triple figures!

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    And people are full of shite NI, Over 100 at Glan siro, unless you put a car boot on there’s no chance.

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    And people are full of shite NI, Over 100 at Glan siro, unless you put a car boot on there’s no chance.

    Would probably get more there for a car boot than a football match.

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    30 years or more shop steward Gurnelista your correct.

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    Get Botham involved?

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    You do know that Swanny made him club president Gurnelista don’t you.

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    Didn’t you once claim to have been a shop steward, AWG?

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    30 years or more shop steward Gurnelista your correct.

    So what did that teach you about the value of protest?

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    To pick the protests that you do value, judge what is important in life. And a protest against someone who paid the players 100% through covid with very little income coming in is a good employer in my books, just because he hasn’t achieved what he wanted doesn’t mean people should turn on him at least he gave it a go.

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    Au contraire. It would appear he HAS achieved what he wanted.

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    What about calling the gathering the SUM protest, Scunthorpe United Matter. because we have been subjected by management to lots of pain and abuse this season.

    There is a chance of prosicution for holding it on private owned land.

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    To pick the protests that you do value, judge what is important in life. And a protest against someone who paid the players 100% through covid with very little income coming in is a good employer in my books, just because he hasn’t achieved what he wanted doesn’t mean people should turn on him at least he gave it a go.

    Judge what is important in life?? The anger shown on this board reveals that the club is very important in the lives of many.

    Players receiving their pay cheques? It has nothing to do with it. A protest is in the offing because the supporters feel cheated at how badly the club is being run; the dreadful performances, the dreadful league position, the broken promises, the disdain for the fans…

    Come on AWG, you’re looking though the wrong end of the telescope. If you really were a shop steward, you’d understand the value of protest to show the strength of feeling about this. But if your MO with aggrieved workers was merely to ask them if they had been paid, and to consider what is important in life, how on earth did you manage to get elected some ten times in thirty years?

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    #205933
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    Awaywego just likes a dust up, that’s why he spent his formative years half way up a pylon shouting bollocks at opposition fans and approves of morons lobbing smoke bombs at football matches. He just can’t help himself basically.

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    As many supporters as possible should turn up at Glanford Park on 8th May to protest what the Swanns have done to our Club. The blame lies solely with them for the situation we are in now. And then the audacity to take away all the club’s land and stadium and transfer the ownership to themselves and say Swann is now going to focus on his flats and buildings. This has made sure that no-one would want to buy our club as we no longer have any assets, and this would also prevent the club taking out any loans. In my opinion they have totally STITCHED THE CLUB UP! This protest should be made aware of to the local press and get them to come down to GP and also to the national press. C’mon irn bru we need you to make the press aware of what is happening.

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    Have you actually read Swanns statement?

    Stop believing the ‘fans’ spreading lies, hate and abuse.

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    Well you’re definitely not a fan or supporter! The truth is there for all to see. So Scunthorpe United FC hasn’t lost its stadium, hasn’t lost its land, wont ever have to pay rent to play there, aren’t playing the worst football since coming into the football league, aren’t having to fight to stay in the football league, have got a chairman who in my opinion is unfit to run a league club and racked up huge debts like never before and has alienated most supporters. I could go on and on. Do nothing and our Club will be gone, there’ll just be buildings there. THIS IS WHY WE NEED A PROTEST.

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    Have you actually read the statement? Simple question.

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    Have you actually read the statement? Simple question.

    Have you read the statement in 2015? Still waiting for a response on the other thread

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    Have you actually read the statement? Simple question.

    The season hasn’t been great and we have been so poor at times, it has been hard to watch or stomach, but we are where we are because of those performances. Over the next two games the players, the coaches and the club must find a way to find enough character and pride to ensure we get the point we need to retain our league status. If the players take any responsibility, now is the time to show it and I ask them to leave nothing in the locker as we finish the season, one that has been so difficult for all involved.

    We also know that our visit to Bradford will evoke memories of a terrible disaster they had to endure and our thoughts go out to everyone that was lost and the families left behind to mourn.

    In our last game at home we will honour the fans who have lost their lives whilst being supporters of our club, but we will also think about the other lives lost – not just locally, but UK-wide due to the Covid 19 pandemic. The club will endure, the town will endure and the country will endure – that is who we are, we must remember, we must care.

    I will briefly talk about the leaked shareholders resolution, because I had planned a more concise and informative press release, but that was scuppered by a few negative and uninformed individuals who would rather print lies than pick up the phone to me.

    The club is financially safe due to extra funds given to the club as sponsorship for the stadium naming rights, which over the next 10 years will be close to £4.2m. This covered our relegation and the lost revenue, due to the Covid situation and is not part of any loan to the club. The £11m loan was removed because we were obliged to charge interest at £360,000 per annum, by the Revenue, so by offsetting that we were able to save the club £360,000 per annum. The club will pay no rent until it can afford to pay a market rent. It is fully protected, in that it has security of tenure for over 100 years and cannot be moved, or developed unless a new stadium and training facilities are provided elsewhere and that is whilst I am here, or anyone else. It will not be borrowed against and will remain a community football club for all our and our offspring’s lifetimes.

    We have had numerous forums and shareholder meetings where I emphasised my commitment to the football club and have proved that with over £24m of investment, which includes £8m of share purchases equating to 92% ownership. Although not quite achieving Championship status, we gave it a go as a little club without risk to the future of the Iron. In fact the future is looking good as we develop the site to provide a more modern looking stadium with better facilities and a quality football and leisure facility. This will include a fully developed training facility, which will incorporate all our teams in one place. Please don’t believe the doom mongers who just want to stain me and my family, or the individuals who have nothing good to say about our club. Look at our investment and commitment to the club, and our future hopes and dreams to leave a legacy and not a tattered and tired stadium and a club in huge debt, but one with supportive owners who put their money where their mouth is.

    I can’t talk about all the commercial dialogue, as it would put us at a disadvantage, but I will print everything I can over the coming weeks and all of this is true and as a statement of fact, not what you have seen in the press.

    My family and I wish you a safe exit from the restrictions and are honoured to be the owners and protectors of the Iron, both now and into the future.

    UTI

    Peter Swann

    “The future is looking good”

    Not from where I’m sat!

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    I imagine I did read it at the time. I prefer to focus on the present and the reasons for any actions.

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    Do we just protest and spit our dummies out every time we have a bad season?

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    Uptheiron99 I’ll repeat. You’re certainly not a fan. Why don’t you admit who you really are? We’ve been supporters for the last 60 years and our parents and grandparents before us. But this is the worst situation our club now finds itself in during all this time. In my opinion the Swanns dont value supporters but still expect us to put our money into the club. On and off the field we look to be heading for disaster. But the Swanns will still be making money from their developments and will walk away from the football without giving Scunthorpe United a second thought. I just hope the Swanns are not the people who take us out of the football league.

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