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  • in reply to: If Butlers here in 6 months #292975
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    There was a post further up regarding high earners at the club which are biting into the budget. Evans for instance could easily be moved on for two cheaper players and he wouldn’t be too much of a miss.

    Evans signed a new 2 year deal in June so his wage will be within the new budget constraints surely.

    No doubt it fit with the budget, hence why he signed an extension, but we had a set amount to spend and if we have a sizeable budget I bet he takes a fair wedge of that up. The same goes with Denton & Whitehall.

    I bet Evans, Denton and Whitehall’s wages will cover 5 players at this level.

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    Butlers full of shite, if he’s not defensively minded first and foremost then the grass must not be green.

    Far too safe. There was a post further up regarding high earners at the club which are biting into the budget. Evans for instance could easily be moved on for two cheaper players and he wouldn’t be too much of a miss.

    Whitehall is frustrating at times, but at the moment he’s imperative. I bet there’s a player out there though that’s just as effective who won’t want as much money, but it’s just finding him.

    Evans I’m not that impressed with though and certainly won’t be worth his wage packet. Denton will be on a fair wedge as well, is he really that impressive that we couldn’t replace him with a comparable player who won’t be on a much money ?

    I like him, but what’s he really contributed in terms of goals and assists ?

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    in reply to: Declan Howe #292895
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    I remember we were offered vardy for around 300k after he ran us ragged for Halifax in a friendly, but turned it down due to it being too big a risk !

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    in reply to: If Butlers here in 6 months #292894
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    Thanks to Butler whoever does end up coming in down the line “which is a forgone conclusion in my eyes” he/they are going to have to ship out say Shrimpton, Rowley and permacrock Law to get wide players in.

    I still think we’re a striker short too. This squad needs balancing up. It’s a wonder Butler didn’t think to himself when he got those players in to play this formation, what happens if it doesn’t work !

    Butler’s well and truly backed himself into a corner because he has no other alternative but to play this 5 at the back due to lack of options out wide.

    Next appointment we need a manager from this level with experience who knows who and what it takes to get out this division. We need to stop this in house managerial rubbish. It worked with Adkins, but I’d rather we didn’t go down this route again.

    Who’s it going to be next ?……Scunny bunny, toilet cleaner, pint puller from the Iron Bar ?

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    in reply to: Radcliffe #292864
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    possibly alongside Brogan if the opposition merits it

    I’d go Beestin and Brogan personally as both have that bit of steel about them. Brogan’s not exactly small and hardly get’s shrugged off the ball when he comes on.

    Clunan’s fine in games when we’re on top, but other than that it’s a struggle

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    Away, he’s only just come back from injury and isn’t match fit. Pinning our misfortune on him isn’t exactly fair. Bit of a disaster up to now with injury problems, but he’s going to need time. Only problem is he’s going to need time we simply don’t have.

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    in reply to: Radcliffe #292801
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    Clunan is good when we’re on top and keeps the ball well, but as mentioned above when we’re being pressed and it’s a straight battle he get’s out muscled. I’d personally go Beestin and Brogan and see how that pans out. Brogan’s a lot more direct and is a lot more robust then Clunan.

    Crying out for width again. Only problem is the whole squad has been put together to play this 5 at the back formation. Only two wide players we have are Roberts and Law. Law is always out injured. I thought we may have turned a corner after Tuesday, but doesn’t look like it, if anything we got worse.

    Worst performance of the season and that’s saying something. Apart from 2 performances which can be classed as full 90 minute performances we’ve been absolutely awful to watch.

    If Butler is still in a job post January, I’ll be surprised.

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    in reply to: Farsley #292653
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    Could be working his/her notice somewhere?

    The mystery C.E.O is Pat Sharp who in his day had the best mullet in the world.

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    Who the hell is this mysterious C.E.O we’ve supposedly signed ?. Is all being kept very hush, hush. Is he a secret agent and just using the C.E.O position as deep cover ?

    M.I.5 ?

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    Deerey it’s a football forum, they’re designed to give nitpickers a platform. One slight gripe about last night and it is slight. I still think Kelly offers a bit more class to the left hand side and knocks a better ball in than Denton.

    I like the look of young Fish upfront too, he needs more game time. I definitely think there’s a player in there.

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    in reply to: Radcliffe #292560
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    They’re so bad.

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    We looked way better in midfield. Butler better not move Beestin again. I’d put Brogan ahead of Scales in CM too. Carlton looked a lot sharper. Fish played well again, all in all a good night. Radcliffe are crap as well so can’t see why we won’t turn them over.

    Question is if we keep improving against capable teams.

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    in reply to: Southport #292438
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    The system is too negative. Shrimpton can play a bit in CM as can Brogan, but never really get a chance. All Butler seems to care about is having 3 big lump CB’s on the pitch and that doesn’t really work, but they tend to get in each others way. I like Scales energy, but has no composure when it comes to finishing chances.

    I’d try him as a winger personally. I still think the best he looked was when played those games at RWB. Not keen on him in CM. Especially not as a two man central midfield partnership. As a 3 man probably, but not with Clunan. No good when it comes to getting shots on target and despite his energy he’s too small to a be a midfield wrecker.

    I suspect he would work as winger as he looked good bombing down the right as a wing back and hasn’t got a bad cross on him.

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    We have laws and Roberts as natural wingers other than that NOTHING!!

    Couldn’t agree more. Only way around this problem is to let some CM players out and try and balance the squad. Dire need of a striker too.

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    in reply to: Are the wheels coming off? #292391
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    Our form isn’t great though, is it ?. Butler is learning on the job, has one way of playing in which he won’t drop the 5 at the back and stupidly keeps chopping and changing players in and out.

    I wasn’t really a fan of Dean, but taking into account what he had to deal with during his tenure, is Butler an improvement or a downgrade ?

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    in reply to: Michelle’s first (&second) mistake #292390
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    Why didn’t Michelle wait until Jan to really see how we and Butler fared before choosing to extend his contract ?. Butler did well to an extent and had a good start, but that’s all it was, a good start.

    I love Michelle for her work in saving the club, but there needs to be an experienced football head at the club who hasn’t been connected with the club in the past in an advisory role to safeguard against decisions like this.

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    3 very basic errors from players that don’t normally make them

    Nicholson had a ridiculous 10 min spell against Rushall, one mistake when he went to kick the ball and somehow managed to kick fresh air and if not for a poor finish that mistake would have cost us a goal. Sandwiched in between that was several other hairy moments.

    When Evans ran into Nicholson, I mean that was ridiculous, but it has something to do with playing with 3 CB’s as they do tend to get in each others way. Solid to an extent, but they don’t really look confident playing in the system. It needs simplifying and changed to 4 at the back which will put them more at ease due to being more confident playing that system.

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    A fit Carlton (finally) and an improving Fishburn – the dominant CM player is the number one need.

    Beestin looked good there against Rushall, but then was stupidly moved back up front…even after Fishburn impressed. A more experienced manager would get a tune out of Brogan too. There’s definitely a player in there at this level.

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    A fit Carlton (finally) and an improving Fishburn – the dominant CM player is the number one need.

    Beestin strengthened the midfield and was that bit of class needed against Rushall and then was stupidly moved back up front bringing Scales in when we know him and Clunan lack the physicality. A more experienced manager would also get a tune out of Brogan too. I know he’s seemingly gone backwards, but you could tell right from the start of the season that there’s definitely a player in there at this level.

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    I don’t believe Fishburn should have been dropped today,

    I said the same when reading the team sheet. Butler keeps chopping and changing and it’s adding the the ever growing list why we’re currently tailing off.

    5 at he back doesn’t work. Butler’s Far too negative in his approach. Nonsensical subs has cost us points. Needlessly keeps chopping and changing players.

    I thought young fish gave us a flatform upfront the other game and allowed us to keep hold of the ball a lot better, but out of nowhere he leaves him out. Butler’s not doing himself any favours. Beestin shouldn’t have been moved either and strengthened CM.

    Only problem is now we’re stuck with Butler now for a fair while due to him signing that extension that was stupidly offered to him. I think he’s here now for this season and next season.

    Don’t get me wrong, he can be paid off, but why offer him an extension this early on ?

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    Nicholson despite a good start looks a disaster waiting to happen and was shocking for a 10min spell against Rushall when we quite easily could have conceded at least 1 goal.

    If we’re playing 5 at the back for solidity and we’re getting done by 1 huge hoof then it’s not really doing it’s job, is it ?

    I’d leave Nicholson out for Boyce and I’d be tempted to sell on Evans a bit further down the road. I’m not just saying that because of today, but I’ve been thinking it for a while. I don’t think he’s nasty/ruthless enough to be a dominant CB at this kind of level. No doubt he’d perform much better back in the national league.

    Nicholson has gone completely downhill. Butler I dare to say has been somewhat found out after we stupidly offered to extend his contract. I don’t know who’s idea that was this early on, but it was credibly stupid.

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    I was hoping the friendly against Donny might have produced something in the way of fresh faces but it hardly merited a mention at our end. “All the squad were involved” was all we got.
    Did Carlton play? Is he fit? Did we look at any triallists? Were we checking out Donny fringe players for loan? Did we try different tactics?
    Answers to any/all of these questions would have been appreciated.

    Carlton didn’t play. No trialists and played the same formation. drew 1-1. Simply was set up to give the slightly undercooked ” or rare ” players some game time. No mention of players coming in either. Striker short and still need a capable CM player.

    The person to solve the midfield out would be Beestin, but we can’t move him from up top due to a lack of striking options.

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    Carlton is on his way back after picking up an injury. Before that he was rusty due to a lack of game time and looked miles off it and then he picked up the injury. Not been a good start where he’s concerned at all.

    Desperately need another striker through the door and a more robust central midfielder who can play a bit. Not been quite right in CM all season. Always said Scales has looked best when he played those games at RWB. Full of energy and desire and would work fine a midfield 3 but doesn’t look right in a two man midfield due to him lacking calmness and a bit of technical ability.

    Everything with Scales is a 100mph. Only problem is because Clunan isn’t the biggest we need a more bigger CM next to him so we don’t get bullied. That 34yr old Bohan Dixon from Warrington just barged scales and clunan out the way and ran right through them. I did think Brogan would have been the one we needed in there, but despite a strong start he’s seemingly gone backwards.

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    in reply to: Butler out #291912
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    Thing is with Butler is a lot of what he follows is data based and he isn’t applying common sense. If he would have left Roberts on last weekend we would have won, but because of data he takes him off and we all go to shit. This is happening far too often and it’s biting us in the arse.

    This formation doesn’t really work either. For the most part we’re strong and robust, but because we have no real ball player in CM and we lack size it doesn’t work. Only match we’ve put somewhat of a full performance in was against Kidderminster at home.

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    Did the young lad on dual registration get a run out, if so, how did he do ?

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    We have seen Scales cover at RB during matches – and I often thought the same thing, WG. However, I’d be pretty reluctant to remove Barrows from the team.
    One niggling concern of mine is that I am unsure as to whether Roberts works to his best in this formation.

    Barrows has looked solid enough, but we need Scales energy and drive in this team, so I’d still play him there. I just don’t think Scales is composed enough to be playing in CM. Crying out for Brogan in there who appears to have that bit of class needed.

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    Les has a point though. We are lightweight in the midfield far too easily knocked of the ball

    Bang on. I said the same straight after the game. I also think we not only need somebody next to Clunan who’s a lot more robust, I also think we need more of a ball player next to Clunan who has that bit of composure to take a little look up and calmly lay the ball off.

    Brogan every time I’ve seen him appears to have that level of calmness and ability to be able to take a deep breath and look up to pick a pass out. I admire scales work rate and effort but everything is a 100 miles an hour with him and lacks that bit of quality.

    I know Barrows has looked pretty good at RB, but I’d put Scales there. The best football and performances I’ve seen from Scales has been when he played those games at right wing back last season and also looked really good there in pre season. Clunan doesn’t need moving and Roberts looks fairly good, but it’s scales who needs swopping out for Brogan in my opinion.

    That Bohan-Dixon for Warrington looked a real player. Big, strong but was athletic with a good turn of pace and had a good pass on him too. I was surprised when I saw he was 34yrs old.

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    Let’s hope she doesn’t sink along with your grand statement!

    Feels different now. This team has that bit of class when needed but also the fitness, toughness and organization coupled with a manager who actually knows how to manage. The way were playing reminds me of Tamworth, but we’re the upgraded version when it comes to quality moments.

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    Wonder goals do you actually read before you spout and you say Dean was clueless?

    I take that comment back, Dean was an incredible manager who was just unlucky.

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    HMS PTL is getting ready for another promotion voyage. This time we have a captain who knows how to turn the wheel and where we’re actually going. We won’t run out of coal and won’t hit any icebergs this time around.