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July 12, 2023 at 6:06 pm in reply to: https://caseboard.io/cases/4fba849c-6555-4b9a-8d07-b6bb74d0b054 #266439
The one meagre positive is that if it’s heard within a month, we won’t have a cloud of anxiety over this if this was months down the line. The negative is that it gives short time for the two egos to come to terms.
I wonder if the die hards on social media, who refused to believe that post came from Swann, are still clinging on to that delusion.
Morecambe, Wigan and Reading in dire positions too. Is the football bubble starting to burst?
Feel for their supporters.
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Don’t start. People will be saying they are social media rumours. Though, many of us saw the tripe he retweeted.
Hilton claims to accept that others may think differently. Yet carefully worded and well thought out statements, like that by the Trust, are twisted to be some personal attack against him. They’re not, they’re an urge for professionalism, putting the club first and ensuring our best interests.
Hilton seems to make it sound like fans can only have the best interests if they align with exactly what he says. He needs to grow a thicker skin, ignore such if he doesn’t like it, reduce the bragging and stop the demonising of fans for so much as not becoming a cheerleader for his view. I see nothing in the Trust statement which indicates they are against Hilton. They just want a solution and will put the club first.
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I have concerns when our owner makes malicious rumours against fans, when it comes to truth telling.
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Their noses were so up their arse that Swann shouted at them for comparing him to Fenty.
Iron Bru have done nothing but refuse to become a cheer piece for Hilton. People like Pat bemoan lack of unity and division, but support sowing division against fans for daring to think differently.
Criticise Hilton and they will look for offence as to how they’re being attacked, yet they will make direct accusations and insults against others for not being a Hilton fanboy.
If things deteriorate I expect some to be attacking people like Pat for being up Hilton’s arse, and while wrong, I would struggle to have much sympathy.
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I think the Ogle thing is a joke. There are enough concerns about the ground to worry about without these dubious rumours.
It shows his character for what it really is. Just nasty.
I was letting relevant news known, given most before had assumed he had gone from Facebook. Nothing more, but I am sure you can weasel some more snide remarks against fans here, Jerry.
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His account is back up.
Unsurprisingly not on this occasion.
Darragh MacAnthony at Peterborough and Andy Holt at Accrington show that social media can be handled professionally by owners if they have the right maturity and self-control.
Using it to give snippets of information and some engagement is good. It can build relationships. The problem for Hilton was that he was using it as the only information source for some news and, most crucially, got too involved with disagreements and personal gripes. No owner is going to have every fan completely on board, even the best. Leaving behind the unfairness in his accusations against the site owners, he should have just ignored those who aren’t so enamoured, instead of fanning the flames, making things worse and making himself look petty and unprofessional.
Hopefully this will be a learning lesson for future conduct.
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Hopefully he has realised his conduct on there was unbecoming and unprofessional and will communicate like a professional from now on.
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I suspect that may be it, Deerey. From there some have maybe speculated that they won’t be playing today because of that.
I hope it’s just a rumour.
If true, what will the excuse be?
They have all been hit by covid/flu/many injuries?
Iron Bru hounded them out with scare stories?
There’s been a slight delay in player registration, but it’s nothing to worry about; it will be sorted by Monday?
Something else?At least the account is suspended.
Attached to the FB post banning a fan DH is now saying the term vermin was aimed at Swan not Bru members … btw i read daves fb post on fishy thats how fooked up this all is
If that’s the case, it shows the importance of not launching accusations like that on social media in the first place. It doesn’t excuse his baseless mud slinging, and I am sceptical given his use of ‘some’, which signifies more than one person. Not just Swann.
It’s a crying shame that free thought cannot happen without such vitriol. I know I can be forthright in my own opinions, but I accept that others may not be so concerned about Hilton. I find it baffling, but I get that after so much turmoil with Swann people just want hope and will be prone to blaming Swann for everything (and he deserves a lot of the blame). However, the reaction from some towards others for thinking otherwise is poor, and the owners of this site seem to be a lightning rod for them. It’s an absolute disgrace that Hilton launched a pile on against those who dedicate their time to running this website in an attempt to sow division.
Hilton claims to want unity, but his actions yesterday have betrayed that. Criticism, even unfair, is part and parcel of being a football club owner. I don’t think there’s an owner in the country who doesn’t deal with it to some extent. However, good owners tend to let their actions speak louder than their words. They don’t turn to social media to whip up a storm against those who aren’t patting their backs.
I would say that if his intention was to create a unified fanbase, it failed spectacularly, but I don’t think that was his motive. As with Bury before, he has a habit of trying to sow discontent against anyone who is remotely sceptical. I know I have been suspicious and sceptical; some might think too much. However, Hilton’s actions yesterday show him up for the man he is and have only made me more so. I have hoped that my worries were false, but the guy is unlikeable and I worry about having him in charge of the club while he acts like he does. It’s unprofessional and does nothing other than divide.
Those who want unity should reflect on how we can have a unified fanbase when the owner engages in abuse and baseless claims against other fans.
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A lawyer, who I think works with property, has said that registering that strip should be relatively simple and legally solvable, so shouldn’t be a stumbling block for anyone who isn’t looking for an excuse.
Questions;
1. Undisclosed unregistered land? That's evident from a legal search and obvious.
2. Undisclosed 3rd party rights? In favour of who. The title should be clear in these regards who has rights over the land. Again, evident from a legal search. https://t.co/mGPfzO72zv— Sophie B. (@sab_89_) May 18, 2023
All in this thread.
Bit hard for Iron Bru to justify a user to be prevented from posting here. Posting here is not an endorsement by the admin. At least him posting has alerted people to the reality of what we face, instead of dismissing ground issues as social media rumours.
I think the unregistered strip of land is a thing, but I have seen lawyers say that it shouldn’t be a big deal to solve. Though, I am not a legal bod.
If we are evicted and we are left with no groundshare even (which would be a disaster anyway), Hilton has a lot to answer for. As custodian of the club it is his job to deal with the situation, which was admittedly left in a state by Swann (who will take some blame). This means ensuring a ground for us to play at. He can’t blame Swann for all that, nor fans who dare to question him. He will have to shoulder responsibility, but I suspect he wouldn’t and will be full of the abuse, excuses and slander as seen yesterday.
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but these attempts at division and attacks on others for not being true fans, because they are more questioning of Hilton has to stop.
As does the unsubstantiated rumours being made up by those that think they are in the know about Mr Hilton.
You mean like Company’s House records and his self-admirted involvement with dodgy telemarketing schemes? Not in the same league as making up nonsense to try and divide the fans.
The drug dealing rubbish does fall into this category and some have gone overboard. However, I don’t need to substantiate a post calling out Hilton for his own poor behaviour with whataboutery.
For someone who allegedly cares about division, you evidently care little about Hilton creating division with his baseless attacks on Matt B and E.
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Time for him to act the grown up and stop trying to attack fans and create division.
That’s a two way street.
Show me where SST has insulted him and called him vermin.
Aidan McCartney (journalist) and The Lower League Look podcast are saying it’s Swann. The former says he was tipped that Swann was breaking his silence today and that sources have confirmed it’s him, while the latter says that information Swann has revealed corresponds perfectly with what associates of Swann have previously told them.
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I may be mistaken, but hasn’t Hilton claimed squatter’s rights, essentially? Isn’t this why Swann is trying to turf him out? At least in Swann’s account. It’s analogous to a renter refusing to leave their rental house afterwards and the landlord going to the court to evict them. Or am I mistaken (I am no legal bod)?
*Sighs* It’s all a mess. We deserve more than what these two chumps have delivered for us.
I agree. To be honest, did we expect anything other than amateurishness from Swann after his tenure?
Both him and Hilton need to act more professionally. This club matters more than either of them and they’re both in a “he said this” battle. One making unfounded accusations against fans and trying to turn other fans against them, which is disgraceful in my opinion. It says a lot about his character.
Hilton seems to think he’s the real deal.
I would blame him and Hilton. Swann’s idiocy in lack of any diligence over the sale does not let someone off the hook for being a possible bullshitter.
It still amazes me that people thought that not paying Swann the agreed sum and having the ground for a few quid could be remotely viable, and that the stadium could be lent to himself. Of course this was going to happen, it’s been on the cards for weeks. I am only surprised it took Swann so long to rear his head.
Hilton will be judged on his own clownishness, but Swann needs to give his head a wobble for making the deal with little thought. Yet another bad decision by Swann.
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