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It would be good to hear some intelligent discussion on a Bru Podcast about all this to counter sone of the emotional drivel out there from the likes of that Ironworld bloke.
‘happy when the club has gone .. sounds to me like just a shrug of the shoulders for some.’
Disappointing IFA. Do you really believe that? I understand a lot of supporters are legitimately worried that if he leaves the club will fold but that’s not necessarily the case. There’s a Board and steady income with no rent till at less Jan probably later. It’s up to them and him whether he stays or goes. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have opinions on the allegations in the The Atheltic piece and Hiltons response. You mention ‘blase’ and ‘a few porky pies’ in the same breath. Nothing blasé about it but there’s a lot more to it than a few porky pies. Have you read the whole article?
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‘I hope they are spitting them in the direction of their own players’
How lovely.
‘You can be the Boston Strangler for me’
And there it is. Nothing he has done will make a jot for some.
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Who’s ‘you gullible lot’? There were plenty of supporters up in arms about it but hands tied to actually stop it. Good to see you’re deflecting though. Hilton still not given you anything to worry about yet, past and present?
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It wasn’t Siderite I was referring to with my comment on self righteousness but thank you for letting me know what I should be thinking.
A tad self righteous perhaps?
Firstly, I haven’t said what you should be thinking, so the question posed after that is superfluous in my opinion. Thanks.
‘Hope he continues on the path of redemption.’
Serious question JI. At what point have you witnessed this redemption you speak of? Today, after being forced to admit? Sorry, not seeing it mate. Hollow words from him in my opinion.
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There’s absolutely no self righteousness in any of Siderite’s posts on this matter today. There’s certainly much deflection from others. It’s easy to take it out on other posters rather than address the detail of the allegations, the most alarming of which Hilton has admitted to after being found out.
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The Atheltic is a well respected publication and platform not The Daily Mail. No comparison
I’m sure supporters of the Daily Mail would take issue over that DM but I’m sure your aware of the point I was making about journalism in general, not all goody two shoes, I thought it was a fair point to make .
I got your point – pretty sure it was deflection. The same deflecting you’re usually quite vociferous about – particularly Trump and US politics. But I digress. No wish to move off topic.
I often wonder if some of our supporters just want us to fail and go into liquidation, I also wonder if one of those two posters spinning dirt about Hilton isn’t that journalist.
I seriously doubt any Iron supporter wants the club to be liquidated and this issue is not ‘dirt spinning’. It’s serious allegations that Hilton has now admitted to.
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‘He’s a bad man, Deerey I get it.’
Personally, I don’t think you’re getting it. Not fully. But as I-A needlessly keeps reminding us, you are entitled to your opinion.
Seriously wonder how many fans of here and other social media platforms have actually read the article in The Athletic given a lot of the content of the responses? I’d wager a small percentage of those posting comments. This one from the Facebook group sums it up:
‘he’s just a normal guy who had a shit start and made something of him self, suffers with stress and adores his family’
Really?? Ffs!
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The Atheltic is a well respected publication and platform not The Daily Mail. No comparison
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Share those sentiments, 100%
Anyhow, no worries, I’m sure the new Directors won’t be shy asking him if there are more skeletons in the cupboard. I’d imagine they are pretty concerned about reputational risk, even if many out there are more concerned about having to find something else to do every other Saturday. Bit of exercise might not go amiss for many I reckon.
Not grey activities, ‘grey area of the law’ or words to that effect. Are you suggesting there may not be more than we’ve been told or not more than the Atheletic team have alleged in the article?
What about the possible victims of his other business activities that ‘operated in a grey area’ as he put it previously. Were they compensated? Did he ‘pay the price’ for all that? Strikes me that those wanging on about second chances (all well and good) are glossing over the fuller aspects.
There’s a lot of doubling down occurring over this across social media when some ought to be showing a bit of contrition.
I hope an emergency board meeting is convened to decide the best course of action. Mr Hilton’s interview didn’t touch on a number of other issues alleged in the Athletic piece, such as the pension provider writing to staff to tell them contributions shown as being made on their payslips not actually being received by them. As for ‘destroying an individual’, don’t make me laugh. No supporter or non-supporter on here or other social media platforms has destroyed him. All they have done is highlight what are now confirmed as facts.
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Some really staggering responses on the Facebook group, even by their standards. Don’t think they’re quite grasping the seriousness of it; or don’t care.
If these allegations are not enough for all Iron fans to question his suitability as a football club owner, then I don’t what is. As for those blaming fans that have raised the same concerns as the allegations, they should have a good think about their moral and ethical principles
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the biggest fears should be about funds, cash flow, the reputation with supporters, stakeholders and sponsors, and moreover the claim that the allegations are being investigated by the FA, with the potential for serious ramifications if proven.
Try this
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It may be too long Pele. I’m not going to attempt it. Iron Age posted a link on the other thread and says the whole article is free to view for non subscribers. Same one as above I think
I think some supporters who have received the worst abuse and harassment across social media for raising concerns deserve some apologies. Past caring what the club owner thinks and says a long time ago.
A very detailed and revealing investigation by @TheAthleticFC into Scunthorpe’s new owner David Hilton/White/Anderson/Mellors who allegedly was previously convicted of fraud.
The FA are looking into the serious allegations. https://t.co/M9etqhZWCq #UTI
— Aidan McCartney (@aidanmccartney) September 11, 2023
I can add that the majority of Iron Bystanders posts were not deleted as they contained nothing potentially libelous. He just presented facts but got a lot of grief in the process. The allegations in the The Athletic will ñot be new news for many.
Its a very long well written article. Some of it public knowledg plus a number of things that have been dismissed as nonsense on here. The biggest allegation is that he’s had 4 names, convicted of fraud and served time for it:
‘An investigation by The Athletic has found that a man we strongly believe to be Hilton was sentenced to two years in prison for 15 counts of fraud by false representation under the name of David Anderson.’
September 10, 2023 at 10:33 pm in reply to: Yet another…’what have you been listening today?’ Thread #271499September 10, 2023 at 8:12 pm in reply to: Yet another…’what have you been listening today?’ Thread #271493We were chatting about smoking volcanoes earlier…
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