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ironlion82 wrote:

Sounds like a complete and utter shambles on and off the field.
Seems like some players take no notice of what he wants !
Showed his lack of experience by being interviewed whilst still angry.
Don’t think after this outburst it will improve things as most of them won’t be here next season anyway.

I thought it was a brilliant interview; refreshingly honest and confirms what most of us know.

They players in general aren’t good enough and every time he tries to give them some freedom we get punished, hence the defensive/counter attacking football.

A few of them are in for a rude awakening when contracts expire.

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Turned it off at 3.

I will come on here, try to remain positive and defend the team whenever possible, but that shower of shite is inexcusable.

Just get the players involved who are going to be here next year- even if it’s a few U18’s.

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This is pathetic viewing.

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I wondered the same initially, Ferrite; but as mentioned above you’d like to think that the reason is because we are eyeing up a permanent move in the summer, and this gives us chance to have a closer look.

Or is that too pro active ?

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I won’t use the Chairman’s ambition as a stick to beat him with, Barton. In fairness he gave it a pretty good go at getting us into the championship and put his money where his mouth was. He’s also not the first, and certainly won’t be the last to hit numerous stumbling blocks in relocating a football ground; perhaps in hindsight constantly giving completion dates was his downfall.

But you are correct that Fans shouldn’t be patronised or criticised for voicing discontent about our current position. Hardly going to entice the faithful back.

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If the chairman wants to see a dignified way to handle criticism, he should look no further Neil Cox.

He’s come across well this week and I was impressed with his calm response on Humberside prior to the game.

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Positives:

A hard working, industrious display; you cannot refute Cox motivates the players to put in a shift- they were absolutely knackered come full time.

Watson- another solid display, I’ve been impressed with him since his return, seems to have made a conscious effort to command his area more. An excellent stop from the corner too.

Clean Sheet.

Gillead in general.

Seeing Joe Murphy back at GP

Negatives:

Forward players too deep- Van Veen and Mcatee worked incredibly hard but I don’t want to see them linking up on the half way line. Peter Clarke had the turning circle of an oil tanker and we didn’t do enough to exploit that.

Not enough shots on goal again- another relatively simple afternoon for an opposition’s keeper. Need to create more.

Defending set pieces- I don’t know why this has suddenly become a thing, but we look petrified at defending corners all of a sudden.

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It was the most deflated I’ve heard him on an interview and doesn’t fill me with confidence moving forward.

The response to the season ticket holder was a poor listen, I don’t necessarily agree with the complaint but you have to at least acknowledge their opinion and offer an argument to come back.

It reminds me of the max bell book incident, another PR own goal.

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I’m sure Mansfield were one of the first clubs to offer the ‘pay what you want’ incentive to supporters and nearly filled the ground.

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Would anybody mind posting a link to the interview ?

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The issue won’t be attracting fans back who have grown accustomed to watching it on Ifollow, it will be those who have found other things to do on a Saturday afternoon and lost the interest altogether.

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We not bothered about defending corners tonight ?

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The lads highlighted an important issue and it’s got to be at the forefront of the club’s mind-I doubt it is though.

Exciting football is the obvious answer, but to honest the problem runs deeper than that. I think the club needs an overhaul on how it is perceived, and how it engages with the supporter base.

Where’s the drive for season tickets? Existing holders, members, casual supporters should be getting bombarded with early bird deals. Set the marketing department a target and let them start getting creative. I understand we don’t have the casual support of Bradford/Huddersfield to heavily subsidise tickets, but surely we get more
Creative?

In terms of casual offers: a few years ago we had tickets for £10- the crowd for port vale was over 7,000 ( It was a crucial game) and over 5,000 for Bury in January. Why have we never gone back to that? If it’s a matter of cost then I’d point to the overbloated squad of 35 players we’ve had for the last few years and show you a waste of money.

The overall match day experience needs improvement- as supporters we can play our part- but it would good to see the club actively encourage ways in which the home atmosphere can improve; provide a drum, flags, open up the clugston corner again? Not my preferred options but it’s worth exploring.

If we carry on our current trajectory I can see us struggling to hit 3,500 on a regular occurrence again.

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MK Iron wrote:

Many on this forum have supported our team for many years. Quite a few can beat my 56 years of suffering interspersed with occasional joy.

If we were the type to walk away when the club are struggling we would have probably done it before now.

Cox inherited a dogs breakfast of a team who regularly got spanked by fairly poor L2 teams.

He managed to plug some gaps by bringing Brown, Howard and Karajan from the ranks of the unemployed and deserves some credit for that. He then brought Taft and Howe in who both have improved the squad. He has been unlucky that 2 of last seasons best players (Van Veen and McAtee) have contributed about 10 minutes of quality each in the whole season albeit for different reasons.

We are far from a good side but we don’t get spanked anymore. We have stopped letting in goals that pub teams would be embarrassed about. Every 2 or 3 games we even play a bit of football.

We would all love to be in better shape and we all have great memories of much better times but I am not sure Cox is the culprit here.

Good post.

We had 3 promotions from the years 1950-1998. I honestly don’t know how some coped. 100% you’ll be there next season Barton, you’re not fooling anyone.

The football’s been boring this season and that needs to improve but I can bet that if we revisited pre-season predictions then most would have been happy with mid table, if you’d have asked people at some points than most would’ve accepted 22nd no strings attached.

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Team won the last game and are pretty much safe from relegation. All quiet on the Swann front.

Forum is only busy when we have something to moan about.

We often seem to forget to turn up against what is usually a bang average Crawley team. That would get things moving again.

No activity on here is usually a reliable barometer the previous match performance went well.

However I anticipate a defeat on Friday will bring 2 threads calling for the managers head and also being reminded we have the worst Team in Scunthorpe’s history.

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He was in team of the week for them too.

Karma is a bitch

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A decent night’s entertainment and a solid performance all round. As others have pointed out, Eisa, Gillead, Beadeau and Howe were the stand outs but no-one really had a poor game.

I fear we won’t be seeing Gillead here next season as he surely must realise he’s better than the lower rungs of league 2, seemed to catch the attention of Bradford fans aswell.

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Pure stupidity from Clarke and has left us right in the creek with no CB cover.

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Terrible performance and almost felt embarrassed when we equalised. Not that Southend were much better mind.

Just don’t know why we were lacking all over today- Grimsby aside we have really struggled against the poorer teams.

A lot of work to be done in the summer.

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Although not technically our Players, I’ve been impressed during the last year with the Calibre of player coming through the u23 system. We’ve had Rowe, Green, Mcatee, Beestin and O’Malley all breakthrough recently. Hopefully some of the u18’s get the opportunity to progress through the ranks aswell as it’s certainly a more sustainable way of operating.

I guess the key thing is making sure we have an experienced, solid spine to the team and not throwing them all in at once which seemed to happen earlier in the season.

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If there’s any truth in it then Spence and Loft look like a steal

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DarrynStampGoalMachine wrote:

Looks like rubbish to me.

Jarvis on £1500 as said is nonsense and I don’t see that there’s any chance whatsoever we resigned Clarke on over £3000 a week.

You’d hope so!

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mistertonmick wrote:

For one thing Keadby you nearly got one right, I thought the corner in which they scored should have possibly been a goal kick, I thought Rowe kicked it on to their wingers leg, well taken goal by Hallam, Green is turning into a decent player and McAtee played well when he came on, a good game for a change and a fair result though Bedeau could have nicked it.

Green looked a real handful 1st half tonight. Developing into a good player

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W- 5
D- 3
L-3

Recent form since the last reply on this thread.

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Enjoyed the performance tonight and thought we put together some nice passages of play. Actually showed some intent to test the opposition keeper and was well worthy of a point.

KVV desperately needs a goal, cuts a frustrated figure at the moment.

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Deereyme66 wrote:

The only things that are going to get the crowds back are a mix of good matchday experience (includes entertaining football and challenging for promotion) and feeling part of the club. Anyone who thinks it’s just about league position is a fool.

This is where Swann and co really need to start pulling their finger out.

Attending football games often becomes more habit that hobby and we’ve just had the biggest break in spectating games since WW2.

There needs to be an action plan to attract news supporters, and as you rightly pointed out, keeping the hardcore fans feeling valued.

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You’ve said our team is sulky and contains lazy lads yet can’t name more than one. I’m happy for you to give me the list?

Or are you just making false assumptions because you don’t like the chairman?

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How many is usual quota?
From the games I’ve watched I’d say we have Mcatee and that’s it.

I’d also safely assume we have less than those that were in 74-75 side that finished bottom of the pile with 7 wins.

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alcazar wrote:

This is true.
But at least those teams gave 100% and weren’t utterly dull to watch.

Can we say the same of ANY team turned out since Alexander?

Yep, this season in terms of effort. Are you not watching the games?

“At least they gave 100%” is a laughable excuse. That is the bare minimum required from any footballer.

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j charles wrote:

I still think it is the worse team we’ve ever had.

7 wins and 24/24 position in the 74-75 season would suggest otherwise.

In fact, most of the 70’s and early 80’s saw us languishing in the lower reaches of the football league.

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