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The full story, I stood up and shouted why don’t we shoot and did not swear. This was not and the times before not aimed at Butler but he seems to think it is, and he locks on to you and he mouthed f@~k off and pointed to the exit as he has before.
My response was ‘ just manage the team ‘, pointing toward the Pitch.
That was the end until the steward arrived and told myself and Dad to calm down, to which we said we are calm and can we just watch the match, but the steward would not leave, so my father told them to F’#K OFF, so he was thrown out and I and my 11 year old son followed him escorted by 2 security men all the way to where Costa is.
I also asked can AB not be told about swearing at me, the response was to send an email to the club.
My Dad has since been banned, with no right of appeal till the end of the season, and he also got a letter saying MR. BUTLER has accused my pensioner Dad of bullying him..
I am not banned but am not going back..Sorry to hear it ended up like that, because from your version it sounds like a situation that escalated more than it needed to. Fans will always shout things in frustration during a match, and on the face of it ‘why don’t we shoot?’ does not sound unreasonable in itself.
That said, once stewards became involved, it was always likely to become more serious, and your dad swearing at them will have counted against him whether it felt justified or not. That said, a ban until the end of the season with no appeal does seem harsh if the incident was as you’ve described it.
The disappointing part is that an argument that might have been dealt with by a quick word appears to have turned into something that affected your whole family, including your son. That is the kind of thing no club wants associated with a day at the football.
Hopefully the club is willing to review it properly, because these situations are rarely helped by people digging in. A fair look at the full context would be better for everyone than it becoming even more divisive.
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Thanks SODIron, much appreciated.
The loss of 3 season tickets next season may make SUFC think differently about fans who voice their concerns at a match.1 user thanked author for this post.
Oh dear another sad moment in club v fans probably irraetreavable after being played out very publicly on here and the Face-clap site which unsurprisingly offers an alternative view .
This matter should/could have been handled very differently and very quietly.This is a product of Babs and co surrounding themselves with sycophants as aired elsewhere on Bru and people within the club not being able to accept at times a different viewpoint.
It has spoilt tomorrow for me already before a ball is even kicked.
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What a sorry episode. No fan should be banned for voicing an opinion. Bhuna’s father may have been a touch colourful with his language, but if a steward was pestering him mid-game, the temptation to tell them where to go is entirely understandable.
Butler has spent recent interviews singing the praises of the happy clappers, yet anyone who dares to criticise within earshot is apparently now a candidate for a club ban.
It grows ever clearer that this club has no appetite for difficult questions or dissent – while those who clap along regardless are celebrated for it. Shame on you SUFC.Absolutely bang on …
so its ok for Butler to swear at a fan but a fan swearing at a steward is not ok .. and surely he should at least be questioned by the club over his actions.
Butlers ego appears so fragile when it comes to any form of criticism and conveniently forgets the fans pay his wages … its obvious SUFC and Butler just want the so called “happy clappers” and the likes of PD and fans with any negative views should be silent or dont attend.
the whole episode is a very sad reflection on how the manager and club see paying fans ..btw the same fans they constantly ask to dig deep for season tickets , merch, sponsorships and donations.
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Was he not an OAP then.
You used the word lady, shouldn’t you have used the word steward, bit two-faced there simplesimon with your bias comment.
Welcome by the way.1 user thanked author for this post.
The whole situation is being blown out of proportion in my opinion. Someone gets told off by a steward for shouting abuse at Butler. One rightly gets thrown out for abusing a steward. Butler mouths ‘f off’ (not ‘out of the ground’ as BLT has claimed) and people are up in arms about it). Relatives follow the ejected out the ground. The ejected person is banned. Apart from the last bit, which seems harsh, no one would bat an eyelid had it happened around them in the Mortz. If it was such a big deal at the time to others, why didn’t anyone intervene? Anyhow, that’s my opinion. Sorry if it doesn’t chime with the pile on.
What “abuse” was shouted at Butler? Something along the lines of “bloody rubbish Butler” or a general airing of frustration is not abuse.
Bhuna states that Butler mouthed F off and gestured with his hands to get out of the ground. Sorry that was a bit tricky for you to comprehend.
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So elderly and OAP is showing bias, and lady and daughter isn’t.
Anyone would think females should be treat differently to males.
By the way I treat them differently but on here they like to think they are our equals.2 users thanked author for this post.
The main point here is that someone swore at a steward and gets banned but an employee of the Club , in this case the Manager swears at a fan and nothing seems to have happened about that.
Seems the Club have a 2 tier system. One for them and one for others !
Should never have come to this and it seems if Butler had nt of got involved then it would have blown over.
The Club needs every penny they can get and it seems they have just lost several hundred pounds.I would say I’ve been a consistent supporter of Andy Butler football wise on this site so I don’t think there’s an anti-AB pile on. In fact I quite enjoyed that Hartlepool game.
If he’s so thin skinned that someone shouting in the stands has got into his head enough for him to identify who it is and want them removed from the ground then it’s a poor situation.
What are they going to do if hundreds start to boo or chant something against Butler one day when things aren’t going so well ?
Bhuna’s dad shouldn’t be telling stewards to “F off” but surely, as others have said, it didn’t need to escalate into a ban. I would suggest someone from the club above Butler could have gone to speak with them and negotiate an apology and truce.
Also I think awaywego is right you can’t put any meaning on it being a lady steward whilst not want the shouting person to be referred to as an oap or elderly. If it was a male steward there’s no difference.1 user thanked author for this post.
Funny thing is a male steward was sat less than 4 ft away from the OAP in a bright orange luminous vest, and he didn’t see the need to do anything.
If it wasn’t for butler gesturing I believe nothing would have happened, the female steward came from a long way away to get involved.1 user thanked author for this post.
Simon says Bhuna will not be at GLANFORD PARK anymore so things will return to normal, no critics for AB, though saying shoot i do not class as abuse or nasty comments and other things i have said.
I am not banned by the way, and do not drink alcohol, just not going anymore.1 user thanked author for this post.
Deerey, you try so hard to come over as balanced/the voice of reason, but your “love in” for AB still shines through.
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