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Tamworth had Kyle Finn who netted 12 or 13 from CM, but head and shoulders Butterfield was the best individual player in the whole league that I saw. Only problem is with him being the age he is, he was easily nullified.
As a result of other teams crowding him out it hurt us as a collective because we were heavily reliant on him. When Smith went back it was a case of stopping Butterfield and you stop us. All the teams cottoned on and basically did the same.
Too nice to play against and not fit enough.
if that’s all we can afford then better we go part time.
That’s not all we could afford. Butler clearly wants to go in another direction and he was offered what they believed he was worth. 2nd half of the season at times he was a luxury player and as soon as teams stuck close to him and got at him, he was pretty ineffective.
Butterfield would be a year older, a year slower and all teams would do is just do the same again. If Butterfield was still here naturally the players on the pitch would mostly go through him and it would take away from the other players. #
Butler maybe doesn’t want us to be as heavily reliant on one single player and is going towards a more collective effort for next season. When you actually take a step back and think about the clubs decision on Butterfield, it’s completely understandable.
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Think our style of play will be different next season and Butterfield maybe doesn’t suit that brief
Exactly what I was thinking. Had to change from last season as we were often over run by part time players as we were too nice to play against.
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It’s not summer until Wonder Goals brings out his list of players scouted from the latest version of Football Manager.
No Football Manager involved. Transfermarkt has a player tracker which lists players from each division. Actually a really good website. Siderite, how can you call two mere examples of free transfers who could possibly cover Butterfield’s position a list ?
Put the crack pipe down.
A section of fans were distraught over Ogle leaving and wrote the coming season off when Butterfield left. Ogle not really that fussed about now Barrows has signed . Butterfield even though is a fantastic individual player at this level, I actually think we’ll be better as a unit with a more athletic CM with more energy who can play a bit.
Reading what we’ve read from Butterfield’s wife, Butler wasn’t really that sold on Butterfield and clearly wants to go in a different direction. No doubt we need a more fitter, mobile starting team than last season.
Ogle not really that fussed about, Butterfield you can fully understand and Elliot is replaceable. I should think that with some astute signings to add to what we already have, we’ll be just fine.
Looking forward to this coming season.
We need 2 strikers, 1 RB , 1 GK, 2 wide players and somebody in replace Butterfield.
Hope Butler can find an alternative to Butterfield although he could have been fitter he will take some replacing
It’s unrealistic to expect we’re going to find a comparable all round player, but I’m sure they’ll be some at this level who would do a good job.
Good options available. George Glendon the captain of Chester City is out of contract. 29yr old who scored 12 goals last season. Liam Waldock 23yr old CM from Alfreton Town who also scored 12 goals last season with 2 assists and he’s out of contract.
No, I’m not saying we’ll sign them or that we’re linked, but they were merely an example of potential options available to us.
Butler clearly hinted he wants a more solid and fit team. Last season we were over run by fitter more robust part time players and how many times did we come back from a goal down ?
We need a more robust team with more energy and stamina. Clearly Butterfield wasn’t the top of Butler’s list and was offered what he thought he should have been offered, he’s decided not to take it so we move on.
Butterfield was way above this level, but when he started to markedly slow down in the second half of the season he used to get overpowered and overrun and Butler would have noticed it. We’ll need to sign a tidy ball player though to replace him.
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Beestin “if he signs”
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ClunanAdd another to those possible four already here and we’ll be ok. Moving away from Butterfield it’s great news Barrows has signed on again. Clearly loves the club and always did say he was a better all around RB than Ogle. Barrows doesn’t have the acceleration of Ogle, but his delivery is better and is a better attacking option than Ogle. Barrows is a better passer of the ball as well.
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Not quite Ferrite. Minimum wage is £11.44 an hour so multiply that by 8 you get £91.52 x 7 = £640. Multiply £640 x 2 £1280, then add on 15% as his terms were reduced 65% and not 50%, meaning he was on roughly £1500. I will say roughly because that’s working on the basis of him actually been offered minimum wage but his wife said a fraction over.
So he used to be on £1500-£1700, which at this level, considering his age and the fact he alarmingly slowed down is a big out lay. I think Butler this season will want players who not only can play, but who can also get around the pitch and have that energy needed.
Great going forward last season, but we were too easily to play against at times and we didn’t have that resilience needed.
Harness said the other players talks are going well so let’s hope they sign. I don’t see how Evans fits in though as he’ll be on a fair wedge and I thought Boyce and Kouogun worked better together. I can’t see Denton and Kelly both been at the club, especially as Kelly will be getting paid a good wage and hardly ever played last season.
Not exactly the best way of spreading the money around after it’s been slashed somewhat.
I wouldn’t say he’s at the paper mache stage just yet, but he’s verging on being in the cardboard territory. Beestin showed flashes of the old Beestin, but in between him picking up yet another niggle and good old Dean playing him wide left, we didn’t see it for long enough.
I hope Butler get’s him and all the other players in to shape in pre season. One thing he hinted was that he didn’t think the previous squad was fit enough so fingers crossed he cracks the whip.
I liked Butterfield, but second half of the season when he slowed down he became a bit of a luxury player at times.
I read Elliot was supposed to have been leaving yesterday. Butterfield I’m not entirely surprised with in all honesty. If we keep the others then fair play.
We MUST keep Butterfield and Denton
Butterfield I agree with, but he’ll be another year older and he wants to get into coaching. I thought the 2nd half of the season he slowed down considerably.
You have to take into consideration that we have Kelly who will be on a fair wedge still at the club and before we signed him he played a lot of games the season before at the level above.
I wouldn’t at all be surprised to see him go. Another one who drastically dipped off 2nd half of the season. At times he was an accident waiting to happen.
However, on reflection, although I would have been delighted if he’d stayed, it’s not the end of the world.
I’m in the same camp, I’d rather he stayed, but it’s not too damaging that he’s gone. I always thought Barrows was the better all round RB, but whether he’s here next season is another thing all together.
If I was Butler I’d give Barrows assurance of first team football as first choice RB and then sign a younger one as back up. Apart from Ogle, Elliot is moving on according to twitter. Bit of a blow if he does go in my opinion.
I know he wasn’t a constant last season, but in a formation with two up top you would have thought he’d score 20+ goals.
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Never quite got the hype around Ogle.
Athletic with fantastic work ethic, but his final delivery into the box 9 times out of 10 was terrible and made plenty of errors. I’m sure there are suitable replacements out there.
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And what a ride it has been since.
You could call it that !. Swann and Hilton I’d liken it to nemesis at Alton Towers with defective safety barrier seats.
Might have been the National league season where we signed a boat load of players early and most turned out to be garbage.
I suspect we won’t hear much until the contract offers are either accepted or not, not like there’s any rush yet.
Most of the players will be away on holiday, so no surprise it’s been so quiet.
Thank you Michelle.
Now let’s just hope she doesn’t get “head hunted”!Even if she did, Richard. Michelle still wouldn’t leave. Not after all that she’s done and there’s still more to do.
David O’ leary back in the day was also spotted at Wortley Hotel and the bread section in the Asda close to the ground. So close, yet so far. If the ink in the biro didn’t run out before he signed on the dotted line, he’d be still managing us now.
I can’t quite remember Robert’s supposed wage posted on here, but if that was correct he’s on more than a grand a week !
The debts are nearly under control…ground is going to look fantastic, we have a new manager in so all we need now is the playing staff to match everything else.
Nearly a complete turnaround from where we were.
I would have kept Ferris and would have moved Roberts on personally. I really like him, but he’s best paid player and a just tad unreliable.
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Only realistic scenario would potentially be another Loan? But if Boro have him Transfer listed it sounds like they’d rather get rid
Any player down to their last year automatically there end up on the transfer list and all are let go permanently. Always get fee’s back, no matter how big or small and it’s been that way for years.
Either we pay money for him or he won’t be coming. I can’t quite believe we signed Law when he’s as injury prone as he is because he was always breaking down when at Mansfield too. Another Hilton masterstroke.
The other winger Roberts is brilliant, but he’s on a small fortune for this level and he’s hardly somebody you could ever be 100% confident in due to his track record with injuries.
If we got a fee and cleared his wage “which would be enough to bring two players in”, would you think it would be a good idea to move him on ?
Cliff, if we get Corbett he’ll be automatic pick to play on the left hand side. Much, much better player than Law and won’t break down every 5 minutes. Corbett can play in 3 different positions so he’ll be comfortable on the left and played there for us season just gone.
He’ll oust Law without doubt. If any club would be stupid enough to take Law of us, I’d offload him sharpish. I think he has ability, but he’s rarely fit and we can’t afford to carry passengers this coming season.
Went down the other day and thought the volunteers have done a cracking job tbh.
It’s to Peter Swann’s embarrassment that he allowed to run it down to such a state after pumping X amount of millions in over the years and supposedly being a hospitality expert.
Paint job looks spot on. Wait until the solar panelling is on, Cliff. The stadium will be positively space age !. I can’t quite believe the stadium is going to look the best it’s looked since it was freshly built, after nearly going out of business.
Crazy really. The speed of progression is staggering.
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Or why not offer to take him for free as a favour to them for the season. If his development is top notch – they could keep him at the end of his contract.
Peterborough always offload players with 1 yr left on their contracts and get whatever fee they can for them. They wouldn’t be interested in loaning him out. They’ve obviously decided he’s not good enough for them.
Law is a left winger. Law is a natural left footer. Corbett can play right and left hand side and play in the no 10 role. Perfect player to have really as he’s extremely versatile.
Not quite sure we’d have the money though.
Where would the money be coming from ?
Not only painting job has taken place, which is going all the way around the stadium. The guttering was cleaned out all the way round. The front path was professionally cleaned, which resulted in the SUFC coloured paving once again visible.
In the coming weeks solar panelling is being fitted free of charge which is going to cut the electric bill right down once installed.
Both the 1st team and training pitches are getting fully replaced, which Michelle paid a fee for, but comes with a partnership with said firm who is throwing in pitch maintenance for 2-3 years “can’t remember what she said in the interview”
The iron bar is getting a refurbishment too.
As the OP stated, all mostly being carried out for free. The paint job looks really nice and goes with the Attis Arena signage spot on. Starting to look quite smart now. I think I recall the new catering guy is smartening up the cooking points too and bringing new equipment.
The head of catering comes with a fantastic CV as he did a brilliant job at Hull KR. In my opinion everything is looking extremely promising. Not only do we have owners who love the club, the general public is pouring love into the club. As mentioned above, once all the work is carried out, I’m sure the ground will be looking fantastic by the start of this coming season.
I’ve never seen the ground looking so fresh.
Not only painting job has taken place, which is going all the way around the stadium. The guttering was cleaned out all the way round. The front path was professionally cleaned, which resulted in the SUFC coloured paving once again visible.
In the coming weeks solar panelling is being fitted free of charge which is going to cut the electric bill right down once installed.
Both the 1st team and training pitches are getting fully replaced, which Michelle paid a fee for, but comes with a partnership with said firm who is throwing in pitch maintenance for 2-3 years “can’t remember what she said in the interview”
The iron bar is getting a refurbishment too.
As the OP stated, all mostly being carried out for free. The paint job looks really nice and goes with the Attis Arena signage spot on. Starting to look quite smart now. I think I recall the new catering guy is smartening up the cooking points too and bringing new equipment.
The head of catering comes with a fantastic CV as he did a brilliant job at Hull KR. In my opinion everything is looking extremely promising. Not only do we have owners who love the club, the general public is pouring love into the club. As mentioned above, once all the work is carried out, I’m sure the ground will be looking fantastic by the start of this coming season.
I’ve never seen the ground looking so fresh.
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