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Agree it will be a tough league and you will have to get your recruitment spot on to have a good season – Carlisle had the largest budget in league 2 last season and did really badly – they just signed Linney from Altrincham for 250k and paying him heavily , we were in for him but they blew us out the water . Same with York they will be throwing money about again and paying fees . Very tough league now it’s weird as it seems like a lot of nl are better than quite a lot of teams in league 2 i think it should be 3 up 3 down now really .
Yeah it’s a minority that don’t like him but most think he’s done a good job really – i think quite a few didn’t get over when we shipped about 20 goals in 4 games last season losing 4,5,4 and 6 in pretty quick time ; many wouldn’t have survived that but the board kept a coold head fortunately .
Completely agree about Blundell Park , it’s not fit for purpose but no one has 40 million quid to build a new one so it’s 300k a seasonish just to keep it going and keep the SAG group happy which seems increasingly difficult .
I think we will make league 1 in the next 2 or 3 years but it will be very hard to stay there without massive losses which most clubs show year on year .
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6 points from the last 6 games cost us including 3 games were we threw away leads in the last 5 minutes 1 in the 95th minute .Not a bad season though and crucially 16 under contract next time who are all relatively decent . Another close to 2 million loss on top which was at the lower end of league 2 losses which shows how silly even division 4 is now .
Good luck in the play-offs I think you have done your time down there now .
I listened to that string of local clubs fans forums on Humberside . I was pretty impressed with all of them in truth ; Butler might have been the cheaper option but seems a good level headed guy . The board seem sensible and putting the club on a safer financial footing ,which I’m sure will translate to promotion this season .
You are in far better place than under Swann & Hilton that’s for sure so the future wiĺl be brighter for the Iron and most importantly you will have a safe and sustainable club .
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He had money alright just spent it really poorly on the wrong players , he was so much better working with a smaller budget – he will probably do better with Shrewsbury as they are skint .
The playing budget last season was 4.1 million so I shudder at the thought of what it is this season with the ‘extra ‘ cup money , no doubt a good bit more . Luckily the owners are relatively wealthy and willing to write it off but the game’s gone mad as we are seemingly one of the better run league 2 clubs but still losing 1-1.5 million each season .
Bonkers
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It has been a dreadful season for us I expected a decent one in all honesty , if we go down it will be a disaster . It’s not beyond the realm we could be playing you again next season .
Hurst out !
You would suggest that the abuse of Swann should at least be paused for the time being , maybe even a slight bit of ego stroking would not be a bad idea .
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October 4, 2023 at 1:41 pm in reply to: This saga is unending but I hope it resolves like this #274521Don’t mind it there , have not taken the wife and kids though – they didn’t like Butlins bognor so not much hope for there – always had a good time at skeg butlins ,maybe I’m easily pleased .
October 4, 2023 at 11:32 am in reply to: This saga is unending but I hope it resolves like this #274493Christ does Hilton live in a caravan or something ?(not that I have got anything against people residing in one ,as I did myself for a brief spell in my latter teenage years)
September 29, 2023 at 9:28 pm in reply to: Top Hilton trolling by Ian Sharp on the donations page #274131Good mate- just want the club to survive , all of us do. Even both of our owners donated. Maybe Swann can help actually save the club ?
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September 29, 2023 at 8:36 pm in reply to: Top Hilton trolling by Ian Sharp on the donations page #274117You would hope not , at least everyone seems united in wanting the club to survive ; I even know a couple of Town fans who are going to GP to support – Never thought I would say that .
September 29, 2023 at 7:13 pm in reply to: Top Hilton trolling by Ian Sharp on the donations page #274100Great effort by the fans and other’s .
What worries me is Hilton somehow get’s whatever is raised (which will end up as a substantial amount in the end ) into his back pocket . ….. he bought the club for free , he won’t be selling it for free will he.
I think the worst of it is that they both don’t seemingly care about a community asset , with 1000’s of fans who are far more valuable ,and have far more care for their team than they would have/had /will ever have .
Both care about themselves and it’s fairly apparent not much else .I don’t understand both there lack of accountability and care through varying times of this whole episode.
It’s not the way I would choose to operate, I have made mistakes both in business and my personal life , but my main thought has always been move forward and never make the same mistake twice ; I think it’s safe to say those 2 chancers definitely don’t share those values or even care , which I find strange and confusing.
Mess something up , and anyone normal wants to make it right ,right ?
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It’s worth a listen to ‘The Hard Truth’ podcast , it’s quite good and they touch on the Scunny and Southend situations near the end .
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Sounded like it – I have never received any sort of repayment from them just the council tax hike and some council officer coming round to tell us we can’t cut down our own giant tree because it’s ‘protected ‘ or something like that.
With you on the train thing , where I live the gates are always open and people rarely check ; I have made it good hour journeys for free without a ticket – I take a different view than you though : that I see it as repayment for lack of reliabilty and overpricing .
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The main hope I have is the outpouring of support for your club from fans outside of the Town .
Seems like everyone from clubs ,pundits and media alike want Scunthorpe Utd to survive (ironically the very people Hilton & Herbert shelled out the most abuse to ) .
The hope would be that it will all pull on someone’s heartstrings who is well meaning and has the deep pockets to fund the club out of this situation .
Or if the worst came and a phoenix club was required I feel there would be goodwill from far and wide to support it .
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I can only assume this is Hilton deliberately antagonising the fan base so he can self justify walking away without paying the tax bill and September wages.
Should be gone by the weekend.
Sadly taking the club down with him.
That’s what I think – Herbert has a lot to answer for imo – he may well be simple minded but should have stayed clear of involvement surely?
The most pressing question for the short term is- will he pay the staff and players at the end of the month ?
Worried things are now past the point of no return for the club .
Hoping not and feel for the iron fans, it’s been a hell of a ride .
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Swanns desperation to sell led to the appointment of Hilton so you could argue he is even more culpable both through lacking a watertight sale of the ground+ land and due dilegence of the new owner .
If you go through the timeline of events since January people can make their own mind up really , like 64 says to post what at best is speculation would not be great , don’t want the lads on here getting any problems.
I have seen how much abuse Matt has got on social media , especially on Twitter and that facebook group and it’s been out of order imo . The Iron Bru is a good football forum for me .
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Herbert is getting played .
Unfortunately he lacks both the self awareness and brainpower to realise both his and the clubs current situation.
September 21, 2023 at 6:19 pm in reply to: So. Either DH Has Put Loadsa Money Into The Iron or He Has Not. #273043The shares were gifted to the trust by Mike Parker who’s a very good guy and big Town fan , to give them a place on the board effectively and more of a voice – Fenty threw his toys out the pram and threatened to stop financing the club unless the trust ‘gifted ‘ him the shares , they did and he had a few more years of full control with just his mates around him in the boardroom.
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September 21, 2023 at 10:27 am in reply to: So. Either DH Has Put Loadsa Money Into The Iron or He Has Not. #272984There were many with Fenty as there are with Hilton effectively saying he saved the club and were happy with their lot .
He left the club in a much healthier state than Swann has Scunthorpe , whichever way you look at it – he did not strip it of it’s one major asset (we will put the state of disrepair it was left in to one side ).
But he did effectively rip the trust off of 500k with the threat of stopping funding the club (sound familiar ) . And then tried to bring a convicted fraudster onto the board (deja vu ) with a promise of a million pound investment . Which a local journalist picked up on and then the domino effect which led to our eventual takeover.
Any of our fans who take any sort of satisfaction out of your current scenario , should remember we were days ,and literally one step away from more than likely being in exactly the same position you find yourselfs in now .
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September 21, 2023 at 9:20 am in reply to: So. Either DH Has Put Loadsa Money Into The Iron or He Has Not. #272972Somebody did make a good point on that Fishy thread actually that I had not really thought of – how many people actually do back Hilton ?
We only know a good few on Facebook , but the wider consensus is unknwown really , we know people had/have major doubts on here but a fair amount of people either don’t do social media or just care about what’s going on,on the pitch so for people to say the fans deserve what they are getting or the like is unfair really .
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September 21, 2023 at 9:15 am in reply to: So. Either DH Has Put Loadsa Money Into The Iron or He Has Not. #272971He was partly responsible for us going down as he had half a season to turn it around , and then we had a dreadful spell in our promotion season , if the board were going to pull the trigger it would have been then .
It seems he did badly with you guys , and his spell at Ipswich was a disaster by all accounts ; countered by a good tenure with us & Shrewsbury .
I think he’s just a solid lower league manager , in the main.
Eisa has been very good so far but it’s only 8 games and he played single figures in 2 years at Bradford due to injury – so we will have to see how many games he manages .
I have read bits on the fishy , I think most realise the situation and want the club to survive (like I do ) but are gobsmacked at the backing Hilton is receiving from some.
September 21, 2023 at 8:34 am in reply to: So. Either DH Has Put Loadsa Money Into The Iron or He Has Not. #272967Hurst in mate – offers stability and no chance of relegation , whilst spending money like it’s his own .
Never the most exciting brand of football though so will always have his doubters when it’s not gaining results.
We have had a pretty good start though , because we have played most of the big hitters in the first 8 – the next 10 games will shape our season imo as we play all of the current bottom 6 .
Suprised Donny are doing so badly , thought they would be up there.
On a side not Mcatee is doing really well at Barnsley in league 1 so far a few assists and goals – interested to see how his career goes .
September 20, 2023 at 10:58 pm in reply to: So. Either DH Has Put Loadsa Money Into The Iron or He Has Not. #272959The HMRC thing isn’t a big issue they accept anything over a period of time .
Aslong as they get their money , that’s from a small /medium size business as I had .
The problem is Hilton has gone daft on the playing budget and then said he won’t pay people – you can’t just not pay people ,
I don’t get how some fans support that
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September 20, 2023 at 10:16 am in reply to: So. Either DH Has Put Loadsa Money Into The Iron or He Has Not. #272881The ground situation seems even more up in the air though ,whether he has the money or not is irrelevant as he will not now even attempt to buy the ground as he has confirmed the club is up for sale .
If no other buyer for the club is found the club is effectively homeless , and no long term plan for anywhere to play (Hilton himself said the council pulled out of funding for the new stadium in one of his more recent statements )
So where does that leave the iron , playing at Gainsborough indefinitely ?
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