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    You have to question the set up of the team for this one.

    3 left backs in the squad. Let’s play 1 at centre back and have the other 2 on the bench says Tony. Who plays left back says Nelse.

    A right back of course says Tony. It will confuse the opposition.

    Which centre back is looking after their centre forward at set pieces asks Nelse. He got a hat trick in the last round so might be a bit handy.

    Which midfield player is worst at defending asked Tony. Why Beeston of course replied Nelse.

    He will do then says Tony.

    Who is taking our set pieces then given Rob and Jacob cannot play inquired Nelse.

    Doesn’t really matter said Tony. The only other player in the club that can deliver a dead ball is Mason but he’s on the bench. The rest are all terrible so you pick. OK boss we can get Whitehouse to do it. He is crap at it but we never score from them anyway.

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    It is a very deep barrel that we are scraping the bottom of.

    Still, maximum points in the prediction league for that one.

    Don’t even feel frustrated or angry anymore. Just resignation and sadness.

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    in reply to: 3-5-2? #246488
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    They threw caution to the wind at half time and defenders pushed forward into midfield. Beeston and Butterfield understandably chasing shadows.

    Made worse by our wing backs becoming full backs. We were pretty much 5-2-3 for that first 20 minutes of the first half.

    Made worse by the isolated front 3 switching to half hearted mode in their closing down.

    All these things were blatantly obvious from the stands but we were desperately hanging on to a point by the time Pugh was moved into midfield to help stem the flow.

    It was obvious Lavery was gone physically 10 minutes into the second half but took another 20 minutes to get Wilson on.

    The players got the blame from Tony for the second half but I think he and Nelson have to shoulder some of the responsibility.

    They made the right kind of changes but much too late.

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    in reply to: That there takeover? #246414
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    I agree with Sanfran here.

    In fact I will probably only believe a sale has happened when the new ownership confirms it.

    in reply to: That there takeover? #246412
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    Not often I come to Mr Swann’s defence but he was promised the land free or virtually free by the council and the first developer. I don’t know if there was a contract in place (you would hope so) but the developer went bust. The council then found a new developer and they then jointly expected Swann to pay for the land and a big chunk of supporting infrastructure.

    This made the new stadium financially not viable. That series of events is the only thing in the last 9 years that I have sympathy with Swann for.

    Probably explains why the council leader does not get a Christmas card from the Swann’s.

    Also to be fair your design and detailed plans have to be presented as part of a planning application so those costs were inevitable.

    I want new owners as much as anyone and in my opinion the club has been run spectacularly badly for 5 years.

    I hold Mr Swann totally responsible for that and the current nightmare situation the club is in but it seems to me he was not responsible for the failure of the new stadium project.

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    in reply to: That there takeover? #246308
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    He has not breached anything. He has not told anyone who made the offer or what the offer was.

    He simply said a group had made an acceptable offer, passed the FPP test but could not provide proof of required funding.

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    The family must have stopped reading the board otherwise your last post would have been agreed with by now.

    in reply to: That there takeover? #246298
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    I would imagine Mr Swann is covered by some restrictions in such agreements should they exist.

    I am not claiming to have inside knowledge of the potential sale of the club. I am just giving possibilities based on standard practice during company sales.

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    Suspect any parties that have declared an interest will have had to sign confidentiality agreements or NDA’s.

    The truth will out once liquidation or a sale is confirmed.

    in reply to: That there takeover? #246272
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    You are deciding to believe one sides version of that event then?

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    in reply to: That there takeover? #246267
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    There have been 4 or 5 interested groups so far depending who you believe. I think Swann has referenced 4 of them but of course that is no guarantee of truth.

    For a club hanging on at the arse end of full time professional football that seems a high number and definitely suggests the interest is certainly there.

    It is only my opinion but it also suggests the asking price is too high or that the strings attached too onerous.

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    in reply to: Oldham #246120
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    Won on our last 4 visits according to IronStats. Never won away anywhere 5 times in a row.

    There’s a first time for everything boys.

    in reply to: Nuttall #245911
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    2,500 Wrexham fans but impressive none the less for a team nearly as bad as us.

    in reply to: Nuttall #245831
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    If he was a great centre forward he would not be here.

    He is however, the nearest thing to a centre forward we have had for years.

    Poor decision making and not the best first touch is what stops him being 2 or 3 levels higher. Be interesting to see how good he can get if he has a full season of games for the first time in his career.

    Suspect he will be gone in January to a club a bit higher up the food chain than Oldham.

    in reply to: Work In Progress #245537
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    Not sure it’s attitude or even fitness. Beeston at his best is a decent attacking midfielder. Defensively he doesn’t have much idea which is why he’s not playing at a higher level. Not really Butterfield’s strong suit either so when they are facing a 3 that can play a bit they are going to struggle without support from the wing backs and/or one of the centre backs.

    This is even more of a problem when your front players are letting their back line pass at will which was happening all of the first half.

    Second half we upped the tempo and got their midfield heading back to goal most of the time. Dorking could have still had a couple in the second half though.

    The current players and formation will only work if we accept we will concede a few but think we can score more. Personally I am happy with that approach particularly at home or away against the lesser teams.

    If you try it at the likes of Wrexham or Solihull you are likely to get a spanking.

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    Our midfield did not exist in the first half for 2 reasons.

    1. Apter had a free role. In his head that means without the ball he doesn’t need to pick men up and when we do have the ball he needs to dribble through their whole team and shoot. This left Beeston and Butterfield trying to look after a 3 in there. Not blaming Apter for this. He has talent but is only 19 FFS and needs telling where and how to play.

    2. They had 2 men in their back line that could pass the ball forward properly. The long haired guy was good at it and their number 3 was exceptionally good at it. Our front 2 should have focused on those 2 and let their other defenders or goalkeeper kick it long. There was one moment that summed up the first half. Their keeper passed a goal kick short to their number 3. He dribbled past Nuttall’s half hearted challenge in his own box. Nuttall stood and watched him stroll into our half unchallenged and play a dangerous ball forward. Most players when they have the piss taken out of them would have chased the culprit down and left an agricultural challenge on him.

    To be fair Dorking were good in that first half. I have never seen a team break with the ball and quickly get 5 or 6 bodies in the box. They did this half a dozen times in the first half alone. You can see why they score and concede so many goals. An entertaining team to follow not least for the owner managers interviews.

    Someone Swann could learn from. If you own the club and feel the need to pick the team then be upfront about it and take responsibility for the successes and failures.

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    in reply to: Same old same old #245440
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    Been a while since the Iron made a profit.

    in reply to: “Work Hard” #245368
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    They beat Notts County 3-1 last week and already have won as many games as we did last season.

    Mind you I saw the highlights and Slocombe was at fault with all 3 goals.

    in reply to: Rob Apter #245314
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    I saw his younger brother played for Scotland U-19’s the other night.

    Talented family!

    in reply to: Next incomer to the revolving door? #245215
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    H wasn’t seen much when last here as a player.

    in reply to: Behind the goal. #245125
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    Was still the Old Show Ground last time I went to a match with flairs.

    On a more serious note York’s needing the trainer on every 5 minutes for mysterious injuries and the referees “look at me” antics both disrupted the game far more than the Donny Road boys.

    in reply to: Loads better. #245123
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    I wouldn’t say the team have found their mojo yet but I think they may have spotted it in the distance.

    in reply to: Ivan Toney #245026
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    A bit strong to be calling your son and his mates morons. Are you the elder Cygnet in disguise?

    in reply to: Administration #244925
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    Runs his bar like he runs football clubs?

    in reply to: Postponed #244711
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    But less adrift than we probably would have been.

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    in reply to: History Repeating Itself ? #244708
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    He is very good at recycling LK.

    in reply to: Supporters Need Some Humble Pie from Swann #244646
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    Might be a relief to finally reach hell after 5 years of purgatory Renee.

    in reply to: Supporters Need Some Humble Pie from Swann #244642
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    What is he holding on for? Is it going to increase in value with the country in recession and the football club well on the path to oblivion.

    I have little idea and even less interest in the value of the land with limited planning consent but I’m fairly sure it’s not an appeciating asset.

    Cutting his nose off to spite his face it seems to me. Or more likely he can afford to spite us fans that did not bow to his magnificence.

    in reply to: Supporters Need Some Humble Pie from Swann #244635
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    Valuations in company accounts have more to do with what the shareholders need the valuation to be than the the market value.

    That is true of SUFC and Coolsilk as it is of most businesses. Even that valuation is from a long time before the team was propping up the National League.

    An independent market valuation would be interesting. A piece of land with planning permission for some apartments is worth a few quid but a long way short of £5m.

    A football club with a future in NLN beckoning is worth very little in terms of market value.

    in reply to: Supporters Need Some Humble Pie from Swann #244627
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    There are people out there. Just not people prepared to pay 2 or 3 times the clubs value.