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Fair play to most cod heads. Most of them will laugh at our drop down the leagues but only the morons will want to see us go bust.
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If the staff aren’t paid I’d happily contribute to a crowdfunder- and I’m sure many others will too- for them if that’s something that can be arranged?
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Youngsters should be nowhere near this team at present; if we were higher up the league with a settled manager/coaching staff and some experienced, competent professional players regularly starting, then yes, throw a couple in by all means. As we used to do years ago with good results.
As last year showed, when you throw them in a poor side all it does it ruin their development.
Not sure I entirely agree with this. I have a bit of a pet theory that experience is massively over-rated in football, because experience teaches you to be more cautious, to be afraid, whereas the innocence of youth is something to be harnessed. Obviously not to the extent of last season but that’s not an excuse to keep promising young players out of the first team.
Especially at the lower levels I don’t think you can buy some of the value that experience offers. One of our biggest weaknesses in the last few years has been game management, it’s not something you can really teach but things are picked up with the more games you play. Look how often we concede at bad times, by bad times I mean within the first 10 mins, right after we score and in the last 10 mins.
Dawson/bishop/Mirfin/Gilks were the last I can recall that seemed to Marshall and galvanise those around them.More importantly, I don’t think most of the young players that have come through have been good enough, both technically and physically lacking. Billam-Moore is the one I was quite impressed with so was surprised when he dropped to such a low level this year. Foster looks to have potential too but there’s no way you’d stick a 17 year old in with Boyce/Taft in front of him.
But many on here seem to have deep-rooted objections to having more than one youngster in any starting eleven, WG. If we were to play three – some would surely go apoplectic.
Youngsters should be nowhere near this team at present; if we were higher up the league with a settled manager/coaching staff and some experienced, competent professional players regularly starting, then yes, throw a couple in by all means. As we used to do years ago with good results.
As last year showed, when you throw them in a poor side all it does it ruin their development.
Do they have the required funds more to the point? I hope so
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The witch hunt for Wright and Turnbull doesn’t sit right, Keyboard warriors lashing out because there’s no one else to have a go at.
I agree that Wright should be more open with the supporters but the role really is redundant with the current regime so perhaps he should look at stepping down.
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Can’t blame him, he’s out of his depth and it’s not worth the hassle.
We are only going to get noddies looking at the job now as it really is a road to nowhere.
Bishop’s got too much about him to drink from the poisoned chalice.
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Sharp £1.6m (Forte’s value unknown)
Paterson £1.3m
Hooper £1.75m as you mentioned.And more recent but significant fees:
Wallace £750,000
Townsend £500,000Could you see Hurst developing a player that could command a fee like that? unless they are a Defender, me neither.
Mcatee
Not surprising in the slightest.
Won’t be going back until the ownership changes, enough is enough and it’s a complete waste of time.
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Hurst couldn’t keep Grimsby up when he went back.
They were cut adrift with a mess of a squad and after their January signings, almost overtook us.
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We wouldn’t be in the national league if Hurst was in charge that’s for sure
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If things remain as they are, I can’t see us being top half.
Even relegation from that league is probably beyond Swann’s incompetence though.
Don’t understand why supporters on Twitter get so irate about not being updated on a potential takeover every few weeks and then turn their ire towards Turnbull and Wright. Most of the time nothing will be happening and anything that does will be commercially sensitive, more so when Swann is involved.
Unfortunately we probably won’t hear anything until a deal is done, or collapsed.
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Notts did football for a fiver on Saturday, works for them but wouldn’t for us.
Under a new owner, proper marketing and a team that doesn’t take 10 games to win a game, then there’s no reason we couldn’t get 6/7k in once a year.
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It’s interesting how so many clubs seem to rejuvenate their fan bases in the non-league.
Notts County, Chesterfield, Wrexham, Lincoln, Stockport, York are all achieving some impressive crowds after years down here. Even a reformed Macclesfield are pulling in 3k crowds which is something they would’ve scarcely imagined, even back in their league days.
Hearing that Emley- whom play at the same level as Winterton- will have over 1,000 at their next home game, they are offering free entry for Huddersfield season ticket holders.
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The whole club is saturated with a losing mentality. It’s passed on from one team/manager to the next.
Whole thing needs a restructure but unfortunately until Swann goes, it will be more of the same.
I said last year we will be relegated to the NLN this season and I’ll put good money we will be bottom half of the NLN- if not worse- next year.
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I wish they would give Butterfield the ball in midfield more often, then get into a little bit of space upfield or out wide to receive the ball from him. He showed with the delivery against Wrexham for Rowes goal what a good passer of a football he is but he rarely gets chance to show it when we keep hoofing it aimlessly into channels time after time.
I can see Butterfield being the latest one to end up on the ‘scapegoat scrap heap’. Brilliant footballer for this level and we should be playing to his strengths.
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O’Malley was signed from Huddersfield for the U23’s I believe.
In regards to the academy, doesn’t the funding get slashed in half next year due to our relegation to the national league ?
The fact no-one can definitively agree on what formation we play speaks volumes.
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There’s a decent team in them it’s just coached out of them, Mussie got hold of Dewhurst and stopped all that good distribution he showed when he first came now it’s a pass to the backs or a backpass to him and the big hoof towards Nuttall, boring boring boring, when was the last see him throw out to anybody, coach them to play at speed instead of pussy footing around.
Defence/ keeper have never been good enough. We were scoring 2/3 a game and coming away with draws. We needed 2 centre backs before a ball was kicked and clearly needed another left back when it became obvious O’Malley had regressed significantly
Writing was on the wall at the start of the season. Recruitment was/is a car crash and although Swann is ultimately to blame, it hasn’t prevented teams with a lower budget or in a similar mess off the field being able to put together a half decent squad.
Short term Daws needs to take a step back and force The club to look elsewhere because he hasn’t got a clue unfortunately and that has been evident for some time despite the ‘honeymoon period’.
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Agreed, other than Gallimore we seem to have had a very ‘small’ youth setup – we have seen the likes of Poulter, Wallace and even Wilson come into the first team but struggle to make an impact in very physical games. Even Pugh and O’Malley are fairly small footballers.
Apter makes it work because he’s clearly a level above and is fairly stocky – I think we’re going to struggle to integrate the younger lads at this level unless we have a better (and more confident) side around them to give them some breathing space to flourish.
Good point.
The one that sticks out for me was when we brought Harry Lewis on for his debut, he got crunched in 3/4 tackles straight away within 5 minutes
150 away supporters in attendance. When you factor in everything that is a respectable turnout.
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Hard to tell fact from fiction on Twitter today. Rumours everywhere.
If cash flow is as bad as reported then I’m leaning towards Swann’s hand will be forced to either accept the bids; that or place the club in admin. Either way, the status quo appears to be untenable.
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From the iron army video it looked to mainly younger supporters. A few regulars on there I recognised too.
Strange because the home crowd seem to have been right behind him this year. Is it an away crowd thing where less supporters mean that the morons can have their voices heard without getting hassle ?
Disappointing we can’t hold a lead- again- but sounded like a decent 2nd half and a point was a fair result.
Looked to be ugly scenes with Nuttall at the end aswell. From what’s been said it seems like some supporters were targeting him for abuse and he’s over reacted.
He shouldn’t be giving fans the middle finger but some of our supporters really need to give their heads a wobble if they think abusing our top scorer- whom has played well in the majority of games- is going to solve anything.
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We don’t actually have that much debt do we? Previously it was all owed to Coolsilk who took the ground to cancel that out.
From what I hear the money we need to find is for immediate cash flow. Not sure where the 250k figure has come from
I’m crossing everything it gets done
I’m not suggesting we are more important than any other club but I firmly believe this club deserves a chance to go again!!!
We deserve saving from Peter Swann!!!We have shown in the past we can average 6,000+ Attendance And have held our own in the second tier (for one season) so surely there’s something worth believing in for a potential investor!!
Please please save this unbelievable club
I don’t think a 6k average will be realistic for a club our size but if we can start winning games again, play entertaining football and have an ownership that genuinely cares for the club and invests in the right areas, we can pull in a 4K average- which is more than enough to sustain league football.
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