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    m181roundaboutm181roundabout
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    There’s a decent revenue jump in League 2 from TV money and higher gate receipts. With a sensible wage budget there’s no way we should forsee being financially worse off a league higher and act to avoid it.

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    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    If we struggled in league 2, which would be highly likely, I can’t see where much extra gate revenue would come from, bar a few obvious bigger away followings, and given our home attendance may well drop with a lowly league position.

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    #316679
    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    Last night was an improved effort, which was good to see though i’m not sure York were even in top gear and they were way better than us and everyone else. The squad cant cope with injuries/loss of form.
    Defence Horton FL level has lost his form, Rose FL injured, the rest of the defence only just about NL level.
    Midfield Ewing FL loss of form, Rowley NL loss of form, Westbrooke FL and the only one in form, Beeston FL just getting back into full flow needs a run of games, rest just about NL level on good days
    Forwards Roberts FL and carrying us at present, Smith NL level needs game time, Whitehall just NL out of form, all the rest just about NL level or not seen enough of them, Carlton NLN.
    Just need to put the same effort in, play at pace and get a centre half on loan to organise the chaos

    Agree with much of that. Based on the season so far, including this bad run, I’d say those judged NL level are average NL players. Boyce said in his recent BBC interview that he hasn’t been offered a new contract and is already looking at life beyond football. With the best will in the world, and he sounds a great lad, his head may be somewhere else. Not Ideal with a talented but inexperienced young keeper behind him.

    Don’t know what’s going on with Evans. He’d get in most NL teams on form.

    #316681
    Bhuna5Bhuna5
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    Show some ambition Scunthorpe, surely some clubs surviving in League 2 have smaller budgets than the Iron or we will be non league forever.
    And AB not happy at moans behind him that we should beat York, saying we were never going to match them, should always play to win..

    #316683
    TheJuryeffsOutTheJuryeffsOut
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    It felt a bit like when we played Notts County the season we were relegated into NLN, just witnessing an absolute gulf in quality.
    The players we have are over achieving as a group to be where we are. If we can pick up enough points to stay in the playoffs we’ve got a chance. Personally I’d start Jones in goal next game to give Mahady a break and look to get a half decent centre half in on loan if that is possible.
    Sounds like Evans is carrying an injury from what AB said on Humberside.

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    #316685
    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
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    If we struggled in league 2, which would be highly likely, I can’t see where much extra gate revenue would come from, bar a few obvious bigger away followings, and given our home attendance may well drop with a lowly league position.

    The gate receipts aren’t going to be that much different.
    Higher level of football = higher entry fee? Times are tough, put the entry fee up too much and it could price some out of attending.

    We are also attracting higher crowds now than when we were in L2.
    Better to be a bigger fish in a smaller pond?

    Additionally, the EFL money at L2 level ain’t nowt to write home about.
    TV money? How many times are L2 teams broadcast a season? 1… 2… ?
    You’d imagine the money all goes to the home team?
    Do less turn up to watch live if it’s on TV?

    #316686
    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
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    “Ambition” – didn’t the Swannster initially have that… didn’t end well.

    “Sensible wage budget” – wins you nowt in modern football. You need owners with very very big pockets and even bigger egos. It’s all about money, money, money!

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    #316689
    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    Think Butler’s post match interview is honest and enlightening regarding player injury status, performances, strengthening possibilities, etc. Certainly good to hear an honest assessment of the state of play with our loud armchair manager noise…

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0n31nkm?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

    #316690
    cassidystashcassidystash
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    Could it be a tactical switch? A few weeks ago the aim was 2nd/3rd to get a home SF. Has player power forced a decision to try for all away play off games?

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    #316691
    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
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    Yeah, he’s frustrated and I get the feeling that he believes the average supporter doesn’t understand the mammoth job on his hands
    His hands are tied, we’ve always being a BB&S club and will continue to be so.
    He’s done a magnificent job with the lack of finances & facilities at his disposal
    Bravo Stan!
    We’re performing better than we expected.
    We’ll finish higher than we predicted.
    The current run / form is a glitch… all clubs hit a dodgy spot at some point in the season. Except maybe York? Their bad runs occurred in Sept & Oct… two draws on the bounce on both occasions :-)

    #316692
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    So. Relegation form now but not going down this season.
    Hmm.
    At least we’ve had a decent gate twice recently.
    How long before retained lists become the main topic on Bru?
    Anyone know? – Did the new contract actually arrive on AB’s lap?

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    #316693
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    I’ve a season ticket holder for over 30 years but because the lack of winning I am considering not renewing If teams bring in players I expect they would respond like Boston and Aldershot have or is it the management who can’t see want we want.I didn’t go last night because I knew what would happen

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    #316694
    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    Ultimately it is about money but it needs a balanced approach, previous money bags owner went gung ho, we were out bidding teams for players like Bradford City with 15000 season ticket holders by offering more money, just ridiculous. Can’t see us progressing back into the EFL without some serious balanced investment which comes with at least a 5 year plan to improve the first team and structure some kind of youth team , at the moment we are where we are because of our financial situation, the begging bowl approach to funding a new pitch should tell us all that.

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    #316695
    mistertonmickmistertonmick
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    this run of form started when we sent players out on loan who are better than their replacements

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    #316700
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    If we have to send players out on loan because we can’t give them game time then our squad is too big, not too small!

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    #316701
    cassidystashcassidystash
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    I agree mick. One area where AB cannot escape criticism is his recruitment of loan players. I have always maintained that loanees should be guaramteed starters if they are to have the necessary impact. Westbrooke & TSF aside how many starts have we had from the likes of Eze, Chadwick, Hurst & Dausch.

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    #316702
    TheJuryeffsOutTheJuryeffsOut
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    He can’t escape criticism over the loans but he’s still on a learning curve as a manager and I’m prepared to give him a fair chance especially this season. Also realistically with our budget in this league who are we expecting to get ? TSF was excellent and got plucked straight back out for an EFL loan at the cods.

    #316703
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    As to players recalled, the main being Dec Howe. First Butler said it was Howe that wanted more game time.
    Then Butler said he loaned him out because Howe had a bad attitude.
    Awaywego mentions this Howe recall, Butler is so stubborn, i think Howe will be on loan for the rest of the season.
    Butlers stubbornest is costing us.
    wait for the boos AB..

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    #316705
    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    He is on loan for the rest of the season Bhuna their webpage say’s so, I’m with the Altrincham fan who said we announced only a month deal just to appease our fans.

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    stephenkeaneBoyceBullet26
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    As to players recalled, the main being Dec Howe. First Butler said it was Howe that wanted more game time.
    Then Butler said he loaned him out because Howe had a bad attitude.
    Awaywego mentions this Howe recall, Butler is so stubborn, i think Howe will be on loan for the rest of the season.
    Butlers stubbornest is costing us.
    wait for the boos AB..

    When has he said that? I can’t believe this still needs to be said as well but he can’t be recalled during the initial 28-day loan. This has been the case for all players that have been sent out.

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    #316708
    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    It’s not been said at all. Completely made up.

    Plus in his post match interview about recalling loan players last night Butler said Howe’s initial month loan spell isn’t over yet, so let’s see after that. He also referred to him as ‘Dec’ not Howe, which didn’t intimate a bust up.

    One player he said doesn’t want to come back right now because he can’t guarantee him starts. Sounds like Beck and that would be reasonable as most supporters wanted him away anyway.

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    #316709
    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    He is on loan for the rest of the season Bhuna their webpage say’s so, I’m with the Altrincham fan who said we announced only a month deal just to appease our fans.

    Lol, ‘the Altrincham fan’. Yeah, that’s reassuring.

    #316711
    scunnymatt88scunnymatt88
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    Not posted in a few years so its nice to be back in the mix. Just a few things from last night i wasn’t surprised with the lineup as i think ewing looks a shadow of himself as lot of mentioned. Also i thought roberts was starved on the left wing when we know he likes to cut in from the right, for me whitehall spends alot of time trying to just wind defenders up and the ref instead of playing to his own strengths. Id personally bring howe back and get the ball more on the floor with two up front instead of howe being wasted out wide majority of the time. I think we also need to put jones in goal, mahady is very questionable to say the least at times but like watson came up with the odd decent save to put some credit in his bank as we saw last night in the first half and at rochdale. Hope your all well its been a while. UP THE F*CKING IRON

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    #316713
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    He is on loan for the rest of the season Bhuna their webpage say’s so, I’m with the Altrincham fan who said we announced only a month deal just to appease our fans.

    Aye, and a bloke in our local said Newcastle had made an agreement with Real Madrid to sign Mbappe!

    Rest of the season because he has a bad attitude? The Chinese whispers that is Social Media.

    Or is Dec the new Bobby Grant?

    #316714
    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    There’s a guy works down the chip shop swears he’s Elvis.

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    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    ‘Whitehall spends a lot of time trying to just wind defenders up and the ref instead of playing to his own strengths’

    He’s infuriating for his own fans, let alone officials and opponents. Maybe he thinks being a WUM is his main strength. Butler should have a word .

    #316716
    cassidystashcassidystash
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    Consolidate in NL which was the aim of everybody (almost) at the start of the season IIRC.

    #316717
    cassidystashcassidystash
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    Reply to Rene on P1, sorry.

    #316718
    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    The Alty fan was only offering his take on the situation Deerey, NI, that is all to do with his club ocn their forum ya know much the same as we do, he realises that one club is lying, that’s true to say even you have to agree on that one.

    Having seen my club over the years putting falsehoods out and been devious to say the least at times I agree his take on the issue.
    If I’m wrong then I’ll be the first to say so.

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    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    Or it could have simply been a mistake by their club Comms person? Time will tell

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