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March 2, 2026 at 6:55 pm #317006
From the latest meeting minutes:-
“Good contact made with members of various SUFC supporter groups: Max Bell (Iron Hour); Gareth Holden (Iron Army and Iron Hour); Stuart Maw and Rob Lewis (Unity Group); and Positivity Dave. Along with the fans there were visits from SUFC: Julie Taylor, Sue Rands (new VP) and Ian Sharp.”A couple of notable absentees from that list aren’t there?
March 2, 2026 at 6:58 pm #317007Yes. And is Positivity Dave a SUFC supporter group now?
March 2, 2026 at 7:18 pm #317008Is IronHour a supporter group? I thought it was a podcast
March 2, 2026 at 7:22 pm #317009VoF was set up as a cheap, salary free complaints department by the club. `
Meeting with groups that have previously put the club’s wellbeing at risk is hardly worth minuting.
Given VoF’s seeming lack of progress you have to wonder if it was another PR misstep by the club. I hope the contributors are rightly asking why they are being set up as unpaid workers rather than real contributors.
March 2, 2026 at 7:25 pm #317010Often 4 of them on there so yes you could call it a supporter’s group.
Don’t believe the Dave character deserved a mention though.
Shame no one from Bru or the trust bothered.
March 2, 2026 at 7:40 pm #317011Have you read what the Vof’s have being doing UI?
They themselves have seen it for themselves they are seen mainly as a complaint department, but far from it they approach the club with various initiatives from what I’ve read as well as complaints.
March 2, 2026 at 8:00 pm #317012These meetings look about as useful as Anne Franks drum set. Have they actually done anything yet?
March 2, 2026 at 8:24 pm #317014Yes they relayed a suggestion about having period points to the club and is being attended to.
Sure Anne Franks would have been supportive of. Instead of her using her padded drum sticks so maybe her drum set was useful after all.
How did you know she had a drum kit, was it mentioned in her diary never read it myself but watched the film and I can’t remember it in there.March 3, 2026 at 10:42 am #317019The minutes and statements are online for all to read on what they are trying to do all initiated by fans.
Pushing the club on toilet improvements, period points, a ladies football team, fan engagement for the new kit, facilitating a meeting with the London fan group and director Ian Sharpe at the Aldershot game, car parking once the old one shuts, various issues within the ground on access or lack of in different areas, the young lads at the back of the Dre (basically pushing,shoving showing limbs as the call it now) tried for a beam back for the Truro game, club said Dazn don’t do single beam backs and I guess they’ve got the rights.
But other than that they’re doing sod all.1 user thanked author for this post.
March 3, 2026 at 11:47 am #317021‘sod all’ should team up with SODIron and sort out both on and off field problems :)
March 3, 2026 at 12:55 pm #317023Seems you can be all over Facebook and call yourself a supporters group !
Apart from himself who else does Dave represent ?
To be honest until this season never seen him or heard of him and I have been following the Iron 67 SeasonsMarch 3, 2026 at 1:06 pm #317024“Apart from himself who else does Dave represent ?”
Recent Facebook posts suggest Dave thinks there is a “Positivity Gang” consisting of those he’s handed mugs to.
Maybe these?
March 3, 2026 at 1:56 pm #317025“Good contact made with members of various SUFC supporter groups: Max Bell (Iron Hour); Gareth Holden (Iron Army and Iron Hour); Stuart Maw and Rob Lewis (Unity Group); and Positivity Dave. Along with the fans there were visits from SUFC: Julie Taylor
That’s like that Carpool Karaoke picture with James Corden and Ed Sheeran.
March 3, 2026 at 2:38 pm #317029Let it be known Bhuna is not in the positivity gang, as i can’t afford to buy a hotel room now in London for a national league play off, that Scunthorpe probably will not be in.. Remember it will most likely be either York or Rochdale in the final…
March 3, 2026 at 4:16 pm #317031March 3, 2026 at 4:21 pm #317032An elected, properly constituted fans’ group affiliated to the FSA seems to be valued less by the club than self-appointed uber fans such as PD. Sadly, the club prefers this engagement to listening to supporter elected reps who work quietly, skilfully and diligently (and with little recognition) for the collective good.
I don’t blame the VoF “reps”. They seem well meaning, though the fact they are club appointed undermines their ability to speak truth to power and act independently. I mentioned this to one of the “reps”, though this isn’t documented anywhere. (I also believe that one of the three remaining “reps” has only attended one home game this season, so I am not sure how they keep abreast of supporter views?)
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March 3, 2026 at 5:02 pm #317035The same elected fan group fought for and got a fan director on the board but was lapsed when the director resigned.
Not to say this current board would have allowed one anyway, but the position should never have been given up once you’ve got a foot in the door. He certainly would have advised the club to keep away from the fc100,000 debacle.
No doubt he resigned because of all the flack he was getting from fans wanting more out of him than what a director is allowed to disclose. And fans being fans just couldn’t and wouldn’t accept that.At least with the Vof there’s 3 of them so between them they know what’s being asked of the club without the backbiting as before, are able to publish what’s being asked and what the club response is.
Obviously they’re only be dealing with mostly minor issues and issues that the trust wouldn’t get involved in, but if they’re successful it’s mostly going to be better for everyone.1 user thanked author for this post.
March 4, 2026 at 3:19 pm #317062The only previous attempt to have a fan rep on the Board was doomed because of the restrictions and the issues under that regime. That wasn’t the fault of the individual (nominated I think by all fans’ groups) and it certainly wasn’t a role that was given up by supporter groups. Sadly, the current regime is opposed to having fan representative on the Board. The VotF initiative is very limited in scope and may tick a few fan engagement boxes when the club is assessed on the fan voice aspect of the Football Governance Act.
The same elected fan group fought for and got a fan director on the board but was lapsed when the director resigned.
Not to say this current board would have allowed one anyway, but the position should never have been given up once you’ve got a foot in the door. He certainly would have advised the club to keep away from the fc100,000 debacle.
No doubt he resigned because of all the flack he was getting from fans wanting more out of him than what a director is allowed to disclose. And fans being fans just couldn’t and wouldn’t accept that.At least with the Vof there’s 3 of them so between them they know what’s being asked of the club without the backbiting as before, are able to publish what’s being asked and what the club response is.
Obviously they’re only be dealing with mostly minor issues and issues that the trust wouldn’t get involved in, but if they’re successful it’s mostly going to be better for everyone.March 4, 2026 at 3:46 pm #317064We didn’t attempt to have a fan on the board, we Had a fan on the board and he resigned.
He just didn’t go down well, wearing a suit at home games ffs, going in directors hospitality at home and away games how dare he, not telling us privileged information he had, that was bound by director governance by the way. According to the FSA a typical fan director that once in place fans tend to not like said director, because of all of the above.
At least with the Vof Ryan the drummer is on it, and tuther than the noise he makes haven’t heard a bad word said against him, him and tuthers also applied for the role not just shoehorned in.The failure to elect another one says to me the fan groups let it go, can’t remember anything at the time where Swanny refused to have another replacement can you.
March 4, 2026 at 4:12 pm #317066I don’t think there was an opportunity to replace Neil after he resigned. The Swann regime was in turmoil. Regardless of personalities, are you really suggesting that a club appointed rep is a better approach than having a Board member nominated by fans’ groups?
March 4, 2026 at 6:42 pm #317068‘wearing a suit at home games ffs, going in directors hospitality at home and away games’
Why are these such crimes to you? If you’re on the board it might be a good idea to wear a suit, depending who you’re meeting as a board rep that day. Same goes for frequenting directors hospitality. If he hadn’t been putting himself about and networking you’d have complained about that, probably.
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March 4, 2026 at 6:45 pm #317069In all honesty I’d rather not have any,(causes to much discord)but given the choice I’d rather have a fan group nominated one.
It’s only that I know Ryan that I back him but understand that not everybody does.
That was the case with Neil even more people knew him from the groups yet still he attracted derision, you certainly need a thick skin in those roles.March 4, 2026 at 7:42 pm #317072Deerey I was being sarcastic, they were things I myself heard said against him, thought you’d have realised when I said “how dare he” I fully supported Neil in his role lol.
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March 4, 2026 at 9:18 pm #317074In all honesty I’d rather not have any,(causes to much discord)but given the choice I’d rather have a fan group nominated one.
It’s only that I know Ryan that I back him but understand that not everybody does.
That was the case with Neil even more people knew him from the groups yet still he attracted derision, you certainly need a thick skin in those roles.Unfortunately for Neil his group made out they are superfans, gobbing off in pubs before away games,and that backfired on him
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March 4, 2026 at 10:16 pm #317075Deerey I was being sarcastic, they were things I myself heard said against him, thought you’d have realised when I said “how dare he” I fully supported Neil in his role lol.
Glad you clarified that. It did sound like just another one of your club bashing gripes.
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March 5, 2026 at 9:14 am #317076Neil was and still is a fan Deerey, and at the time you were the club basher not me I supported Swann.
On the club bashing itself its only their continued actions that get my goat, they’re the ones sucking up to different groups at the cost to others. And try selling us all types of snake oil at every opportunity. Selling us down the river with FC 100,000. They are not to be trusted imo.Take the latest on the Official web page, couple of pages on praise for the Irish irons £500 donation towards the pitch fund, did the trust get as much praise for their £13,000 share purchase.
Isn’t that a clear indication where the club is.March 5, 2026 at 9:57 am #317077I said much the same on X yesterday about the club’s failure to recognise the Trust. Bernard does fantastic work as leader of Irish Iron and deserves recognition, but so do the Trust. The bizarre thing about this as that many of II members will also be Trust members.
Neil was and still is a fan Deerey, and at the time you were the club basher not me I supported Swann.
On the club bashing itself its only their continued actions that get my goat, they’re the ones sucking up to different groups at the cost to others. And try selling us all types of snake oil at every opportunity. Selling us down the river with FC 100,000. They are not to be trusted imo.Take the latest on the Official web page, couple of pages on praise for the Irish irons £500 donation towards the pitch fund, did the trust get as much praise for their £13,000 share purchase.
Isn’t that a clear indication where the club is.3 users thanked author for this post.
March 5, 2026 at 10:43 am #317078Neil was and still is a fan Deerey, and at the time you were the club basher not me I supported Swann.
On the club bashing itself its only their continued actions that get my goat, they’re the ones sucking up to different groups at the cost to others. And try selling us all types of snake oil at every opportunity. Selling us down the river with FC 100,000. They are not to be trusted imo.Take the latest on the Official web page, couple of pages on praise for the Irish irons £500 donation towards the pitch fund, did the trust get as much praise for their £13,000 share purchase.
Isn’t that a clear indication where the club is.On those two points, fc1000 and little Trust recognition I agree with you.
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March 5, 2026 at 11:44 am #317079Take the latest on the Official web page, couple of pages on praise for the Irish irons £500 donation towards the pitch fund, did the trust get as much praise for their £13,000 share purchase.
Isn’t that a clear indication where the club is.Buying shares is not a donation, so to be fair to the club, why should they make a song and dance about it?
March 5, 2026 at 12:29 pm #317080Okay, even if we accept that your point (which I don’t btw), what about contributing to the costs of Ross Barrows’ post surgery rehabilitation as well as leading the support for the Iron Bru initiated fundraising at what was a parlous time in the club’s history? Others will be able remind us of past contributions, but it hasn’t all been in return for shares-for which the club still receives a tidy cash injection.
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