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October 3, 2020 at 5:27 pm #195361
Just listened to clueless Cox on blunderside.
Obviously doesn’t fancy McAtee or Eisa; give McAtee 60 mins if he wants to get him match fit!
I predict it will end in tears by Xmas.
Absolutely shambolc!
October 3, 2020 at 5:33 pm #195364Cox still has time on his hands but for god sake play your best players in the correct positions, buy/loan a good keeper and right back (because Watson and Hornshaw aren’t the answers). The two best players on that pitch got moved to different more defensive positions – that just beggars belief.
October 3, 2020 at 5:35 pm #195365“It’s going to be a long season”
No it won’t. We run out of money in November!
October 3, 2020 at 5:52 pm #195369Port Vale on target 3 goals 1
Newport on target 4 goals 1
Crawley on target 1 goals 0
Carlisle on target 2 goals 1
Tranmere on target 1 goals 0Certainly going backwards on attempts, so average of 2 shots on target per game, and averaging 0.6 goals a game, so it’s riveting stuff in our opponents half and something needs changing, and it’s not all the forwards fault, playing without wingers we aren’t getting enough crosses in for the big lads and our so called wing backs rarely go over the halfway line, still trying to work out what position Gillihead is playing in this formation, also why did we change Taylor and Vincent positions because we were woeful second half, also Rory was more back to form with that punch for the second goal.
October 3, 2020 at 6:10 pm #195372So you watched it anyway, you little tinker!
October 3, 2020 at 6:50 pm #195374Cox got the job solely because he showed an interest in it and was a local lad, no other reason. You look at it from the outside and all we’ve done is hire a non-league assistant manager with next to no managerial experience. If it was any other assistant manager from non-league with no managerial experience we all would have been up in arms!
October 3, 2020 at 7:05 pm #195376Port Vale on target 3 goals 1
Newport on target 4 goals 1
Crawley on target 1 goals 0
Carlisle on target 2 goals 1
Tranmere on target 1 goals 0Certainly going backwards on attempts, so average of 2 shots on target per game, and averaging 0.6 goals a game, so it’s riveting stuff in our opponents half and something needs changing, and it’s not all the forwards fault, playing without wingers we aren’t getting enough crosses in for the big lads and our so called wing backs rarely go over the halfway line, still trying to work out what position Gillihead is playing in this formation, also why did we change Taylor and Vincent positions because we were woeful second half, also Rory was more back to form with that punch for the second goal.
Mick, you are being a little unfair. Your stats do not include attempts that were blocked. Many of these would have been on target.
That said, we are still very poor.
October 3, 2020 at 7:21 pm #195378Happy to defend the side to the hilt when they come home with the 3 points like last week but that was a really poor performance against another poor side that was there for the taking.
Could see the method behind the madness first half, overload the midfield and push the full back forward to compensate for the wingers tucking inside. Unfortunately we ended up with an overcrowded middle, too many sideways passes and no-one in the danger area. Felt sorry for Loft again.
2nd half was pretty much shambolic and we had no plan B. Cox has to take responsibility for that and move on.
October 3, 2020 at 7:27 pm #195379Blocked shots aren’t shown on the stats, but what I have seen I can’t remember us doing a lot of attacking to have a lot of blocked shots.
October 3, 2020 at 7:31 pm #195380I’ve seen all the games so far (league), all the teams have been shit. But we’ve managed 8 shots on target in 6 hours of football. We’ve had bizarre formations (Ernest Prawn no doubt) and mini fall outs with the best players. 4pts out of 12 and zero entertainment.
October 3, 2020 at 7:42 pm #195382My initial optimism is all but evaporated, Cox arrived and promised flowing attacking football and he hasn’t delivered, its starting to look like he is short of ideas, already or been badly led by someone, is Wilclot having an influence ?
Its like history is repeating itself, another season of crap football looming, that’s if the season goes to its end or we survive that long.
Disillusioned already !
October 3, 2020 at 7:49 pm #195383I too have seen all the matches this year and there hasnt been a single game where we have had sustained pressure and looked like we may get a goal.
Also Why does hippolite never try and take on a defender he gets in a good position and then slows down and passes side ways losing all momentum.
Why do we play with turan and loft the partnership will never work unless we are getting crosses in for them but guess what nobody is ever in a position to cross a ball because they are all playing keep ball in the middle of the pitch. The style of football we are playing needs a quick striker to run in behindOctober 3, 2020 at 7:58 pm #195385If you are going to play that system your full backs need to be able to get forward and get crosses into the box,our 2 never got one cross in it was crying out for someone to do that in the first half,still need 2 good full backs,and Taylor never touched the ball in the second half,why change something that wasn t broken,Banks and Spearing,have no pace and we seemed to be doing all the right things,as someone else said it’s going to be a long season
October 3, 2020 at 9:35 pm #195394He’s created a huge problem for himself by talking shit when he came.
If he hadn’t promised 442 and attacking football he’d have a bit more leeway with his awful boring formations.
Don’t promise you’re going to do something then do the opposite it’s a good way to lose support really quickly.
The problems are the same every week and obvious. Either he doesn’t see them or he won’t act? Either way a big concern.
October 3, 2020 at 10:41 pm #1953974-4-2, 3-5-2, 4-3-3 if you aint good enough it don’t matter….
October 3, 2020 at 11:43 pm #195402Surely our Chairman reads what his supporters are saying, many cannot be bothered to sit at home in comfort of their homes, so what chance has he got of fans turning out even if they were allowed, he stated that we have about 800 paying season ticket holders, I wonder how many there would be if the season was just starting.
Mr Cox got the backing of most Scunny fans including myself when he was appointed, but he must have sold his plans of attacking entertaining football to the Chairman, I do not like this manager change every few monyjs, but it is Peter Swann that keeps making the same misstakes when appointing a replacement, surely he must take advice the next time.
Why do Scunthorpe managers always have trouble getting on with some players????
October 4, 2020 at 12:31 am #195404That what he said today in the post match interview was complete bullshit. McAtee despite playing 90mins against Man City u23’s, had yet another 3 days training but he’s still deemed unfit to such an extent that he couldn’t even make the bench.
Utter rubbish…you telling me he wasn’t fit enough to at least come on from the bench ?
If he was that concerned about him gaining match fitness, he would have started him and subbed him off when tired or at the very least brought him on from the bench.
I’d rather he told the truth and just said he doesn’t see eye to eye with him. I won’t even start on him choosing Hippolyte over Eisa.
I don’t know what’s gone off behind the scenes but Cox needs to seriously get a grip.
Colclough, Eisa and McAtee are our best current attacking players along with Gillead and all snubbed. Crap football, lack of excitement and shots on goal…yet we have those 3 parked to one side.
October 4, 2020 at 10:34 am #195412Gonna keep saying it. I tell all new managers from Day One on here which are the pitfalls to avoid.
All then plunge straight into them without passing Go. And do not tell me that they don’t all come straight to this forum to find out the lie of the land!I know twice as much about cricket than I do about football tactics yet I have unhappily been 100% spot on every time – the managers are wrong – me right. That really should not be!
NOT blowing my own trumpet – just utterly peed off!
Interesting. ZERO interest in any of our players. apparently
October 4, 2020 at 11:09 am #195414Our ‘best’ players in no particular order:-
1. Not interested
2. Injured.
3. Playing out of position.
4. On the bench.
5. In the stand
6. Looked like he could be among the best so moved out of position to become ineffective.
Some good management needed.October 4, 2020 at 12:32 pm #195417If you didn’t see the red flags after Cox had read that pre prepared speech before he even got the job ( I wonder who wrote that ? ) then you really weren’t taking any notice.
Probably the same person who brought in all the new players pre season and who is really calling the shots again now.
It hasn’t taken long for the strings to start to show ( Sandy Shaw )October 4, 2020 at 12:34 pm #195418Taylor being moved in a defensive role after performing so well in the no 10 role is what got me. If that’s the depth of his tactical nous, Lillis needs to have more of an input.
Everything Cox is doing is literally making us poorer.
God above !
October 4, 2020 at 12:48 pm #195422The massive bonus for Cox right now is that if he doesn’t read this website ( and why should he ?) nobody is telling him how poor he’s doing.
October 4, 2020 at 1:04 pm #195424Remember when another manager tried to convert Paddy Madden into a winger ? Didn’t that end well !!
Seems we may be trying to convert Abo Eisa into what he isn’t !! What is it with us and square pegs and round holes !!
Play to strengths, so much time is spent on weaknesses.
October 4, 2020 at 1:15 pm #195426“Seems we may be trying to convert Abo Eisa into what he isn’t !! ”
A little used bench warmer in a poor L2 team you mean.
October 4, 2020 at 1:55 pm #195431Taylor did do very well first half but I don’t think that moving him back is a mistake it’s what he was hopefully signed for. We’re good at no 10 with McAtee (when picked) and Hallam we need a creative player deeper in CM playing alongside Spence and Taylor is perfect for that.
The issue was who replaced him and the fact that we never put a single cross into the box despite having 2 6’2”+ strikers and one of their cbs being under 6”October 4, 2020 at 7:06 pm #195436Stampy, from what I’ve read he can play other positions but primarily plays no 10 role which is why he scored a hat trick the week before for forest u23’s. I think he played in the that role for Port Vale as well.
You have got to be joking surely ?. Cox is scared to death of playing with out and out wingers with two conservative CM players. I think putting a more attack minded CM next to Spence will result in Cox having a panic attack.
What we think we need and what Cox seems to think we need are two entirely different things.
The reason why no balls are going into the box is because Cox wants to play central with two tucked in wingers and one striker upfront…hence why we’re struggling to get shots on target.
October 4, 2020 at 10:41 pm #1954442 narrow wide men and one up front seems to to work for Liverpool and Man United. Apart from today obviously.
October 5, 2020 at 10:14 am #195458But their narrow wide men play as forwards supporting the striker, ours support the defence.
October 5, 2020 at 10:45 am #195461They also work extremely hard constantly pressing and turning the ball over in the final third. Ours not so much apart from Gillead when he is allowed to play there.
Maybe why Cox doesn’t fancy Eisa, Colclough and McAtee.
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