Totalitarian dictatorship.

[billpuntonsghost]

Arriving much faster than even I envisioned.

[Siderite]

Cryptic nonsense.

[Northumbiron]

billpuntonsghost wrote:

Arriving much faster than even I envisioned.

In the USA.

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Iron-awe

[Deereyme66]

On it’s way out in Hungary:

BBC News – Orbán era swept away by Péter Magyar’s Hungary election landslide – BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd9vg782kx7o

[Iron-awe]

Chuffed for Hungary they hopefully will come out of that 16 year dark shadow. Apparently Trump thinks he’s Jesus after posting an AI image of himself on social media healing a sick man whilst bathed in a golden light wearing biblical robes. He later took it down claiming he was making out he was a doctor, complete fruit cake/ bellend.

[Siderite]

Trump is like the old man at a care home ranting away about how he is Napoleon. I am just waiting for him to appoint a horse as senator to mimic a Roman empire whose sanity he matches.

[Siderite]

Deereyme66 wrote:

It’s a fair comment about Dennis Leary and a classic routine – well worth a watch. I doubt there’s a connection though. Or is there?

It must be confusing for the cliched ‘salt of the Earth’ understanders, like Spiked, to see all the jubilant Hungarians in the streets waving Hungarian flags in a display of patriotism and joy that Orban has gone.

Orban and his politics brought the biggest case democratic backsliding in the EU with a stagnating economy, but Hungary was laughably treated as a beacon of hope by the populist right like Venezuela was for the populist left. Vance going over there to campaign and spread conspiracy theories about Ukrainian election rigging saw the polls shift even more against him. Making out the man who was begging to be Putin’s little mouse was the saviour of Europe, when he was a corrupt shyster willing to get into bed with tyrants and spread baseless lies to try and maintain power. All their critiques of the EU for sovereignty fall on deaf ears when they make out this Russian shill was some great leader.

On that note, it’s interesting to see how many people got Orban money. Yet, I bet there are no grand conspiracies about ‘Hungarian lobbies’ controlling politicians or journalists.

https://x.com/karamballes/status/2043290986202202581

Fraser Nelson had an interesting article out this weekend detailing how Orban tried to bribe him when he was editor of The Spectator, but he refused it.

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I do not follow politics much but the Orban Story is telling ,he’s been very much lambasted over the years in the west and pretty much considered a despot yet, he stood down wit a certain grace when defeat looked certain. I don’t think anyone would have been surprised if he refused to. It’s quite a moment and shows democracy still works if given a chance.As I said this is abroad strokes take

[Siderite]

That is true, but it may have been hard for him to have clung on. Hungary is part of the EU and there could have been dire repercussions if he tried to do a Maduro.

What did happen was severe gerrymandering, suppression of critical press and universities, spreading of conspiracy theories and eye watering corruption. At least he left when he did lose in a system that favoured him, but that is the bare minimum to be expected in a democracy.

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I do understand all that ,it’s just good to see democracy work,I guess like in Ukraine,the new guy may just be less bad ,

[Siderite]

The new guy is less corrupt and not wanting Hungary to be some Russian proxy, with bizarre fawning about being Putin’s mouse, and run the country like a racket. He is already talking about removing funding for populist right wing groups, CPAC and moving away from Russian oil. Which will no doubt have loons and bots online going on about how he’s a globalist warmonger supporting Ukraine.

A case in point about Hungary is that I believe today will mark Magyar’s first TV appearance because the media wouldn’t dare show him before, due to Orban influence. Now imagine a UK election where only Starmer would be allowed to be televised.

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I’m not sure why you’re explaining this as If I’m some sort of Oban apologist ,more of a democracy fan and it’s solid victory here.
As for Starmer his attitude to different opinions is ridiculous.It may not be that he denies TV coverage,he just expels people from a democratic party

[Siderite]

I was not trying to argue with you and wasn’t directing that as a point against you as if you were disagreeing on this aspect. It was more of an addition to add extra information for context.

Starmer has many faults. Expelling politicians for misdeeds, even if some might be harsh, is not the same as dominating over what should be independent media outlets so no dissenting views can be aired, making it resemble a propaganda network.

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