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    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    Not flavour of the month in Sunderland tonight!

    A couple of ex-Iron strikers will be gracing the hallowed turf next weekend.

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    Ivan Toney!

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    Going off topic here but Wootton is netting goals again this season. Scored 18 last season and 16/17 this season.

    I always said there was a good striker there. Why do we keep doing this ?

    Why not sign him up to another contract and allow him to leave on loan to Notts County for game time ?

    From what I read earlier he’s being watched by various league one clubs and a few championship clubs.

    Not as tragic as Goode though. Swann brought him here as his out of nowhere pet project, ended up releasing him for free and then is sold for 1 million quid after a promotion season with Northampton.

    This club is absolutely clueless. Add Godden into the mix as well.

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    Nah, not having that WG.

    He was given a fair crack at the whip here in league one and failed to take his opportunity.

    He’s also on 15 goals in 41 league games this year, which is a good account, but hardly setting the National league alight.

    Do wish him this best of luck though as he never failed to put a shift in for us and looked devastated after the Bradford game which basically sent us down in league one.

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    I always liked Tom Hopper, and Wootton, both are far better players than the present Green, Hippolyte, Loft and although we have not seen Swanns star striker Turan, simply because he is even worse than those I have just named. There are so many of our ex players that become star players with other teams, but we manage to sign so many useless players that can never ever become league two players. That is why we never score goals, and most matches have two shots maximum on target. Sadly our football club is now not worth following any more, Lincoln who are at Wembley next week playing to gain promotion into the Champiuonship (by the way, they were non-league four years ago) when we were playing at the top of league one, now they have taken our place, and we will next season take the non-league position they were in four years ago, this just shows what clueless clowns are now running our once popular little family enyertaining club, these people should hang their heads in shame. From a keen supporter of 70 years since 1951, and long time season ticket holder until the coming season. I ewill possibly select a game or two, but will not tie myself with any more season tickets, those days are truely over for me.

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    Don’t let all that beat you down in to not going regularly next year BS.

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    Playing out and out forwards on the flanks has been the main reason we have failed so many potential strikers in recent years. The list is not a short one.
    Haven’t we paid a price for that?

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    Hopper’s record this season in a good Lincoln side is only has good as Lofts both scored 8 apiece in regular season, and loft was in a piss poor side who very rarely attacked, next season we need a forward far better than there scoring stats. But wow come the playoffs Hopper’s goals could be worth there weight in gold, well done shame it was for the gimp’s. We’ve more than done about Wootton wish the lad every success.

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    Quite right les, playing a lone striker unsuited to the job also contributes to the failure.

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    Why not sign him up to another contract and allow him to leave on loan to Notts County for game time ?

    A lot of logic in there, although hindsight is a wonderful thing. If we had done that in 2019 and brought him back for the 2020/21 campaign then we wouldn’t have had to bring in Jarvis or Turan. Plus he’d have been playing in empty stadiums which would have negated Awaywego’s argument!

    The opposite view is that we’ve tried this several times without success. Olomola and Dales being classic examples.

    It’s been poor decision making by the powers that be. I don’t expect that to change this summer with the same personnel as last year in the building.

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    Surely they MUST be learning something though! If the report linking us with Muldoon has substance that would indicate a change of direction, we didn’t sign any 30+ y.o. last summer.

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    Don’t let all that beat you down in to not going regularly next year BS.

    Deereyme66——-The reason there will be no purchase of a season ticket ever again pal is because our football club is now being run by a squad of people that have forgot why supporters turn out on a Saturday by driving from their homes, sitting in the car park for 45 mins, then spending 90 mins in the Cluggy Stand (with me its often 75 or 80 mins ha ha). I do not know what the management views are on why we do this, but for years it was “because we wanted to be entertained, and watch our team playing to win matches”, all that has now vanished from the GP present day set up, and the entertainment and enjoyment has been eliminated from the way that the club now sets itself up as, one player up front, one shot on target in most games, eight of our last ten games has seen us score ZERO goals, yes eight of our last ten matches without scoring even ONE GOAL, thats twelve bloody hours without scoring!!!!

    SUMMARY.
    IT IS NOT ABOUT LOYALTY, I THINK MY LOYALTY HAS BEEN TESTED OVER THE PAST 70 YEARS, IT IS SO SIMPLE, WHEN ENJOYMENT IS NO LONGER ON OFFER YOU JUST DON’T BOTHER YOUR ARSE IN TURNING OUT, WHAT’S THE POINT?????

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    Whilst I am on the subject of club loyalty, mine is again being tested in two hours time when our first Speedway meeting of the season takes place against Plymouth, the team appears to have been assembled on the cheap, and are budding wooden spoonists, again after only missing one meetring in the past twelve years, if we cannot compete with the other teams, and we continue like the football club, it will also be a stay away event, money and time is paid out in return for entertainment.

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    Wasn’t questioning your loyalty BS. More a case of, going to the match is more than just the football. The social aspect is a huge part of it. What I mean is, don’t let the way the club is being run and the dire football stop you going and deprive you of the social aspect. Enjoy the speedway today. Hope the rain stays off.

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    BS let me put it in perspective, it would upset me more if you stop going than if Scunny get relegated to non lge and I don’t even know you from Adam, fans like you and Mick are the backbone of our club and it is your club not Swannys, you don’t all of a sudden become a Scunny fan at 45 by buying the club, 70 years you’ve been going so don’t let Swanny,Cox,Novac or anyone else stop you from going, you’ve put the hard yards in just see it out to the end it won’t kill you.

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    10 goals in 47 league appearances for Hopper at Lincoln – important goal yesterday but not the sort of record to lose too much sleep over.

    20 in just over 100 league appearances for us, suggests he had more than enough chance to prove himself here.

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    It always makes me laugh when some say “why did we let him go?” when most of these players have been subjected to dogs abuse at games and on social media by a certain section of fans.

    If you ridicule young players either at games or on social media don’t expect their confidence to be sky high to perform how you wish.

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    It always makes me laugh when some say “why did we let him go?” when most of these players have been subjected to dogs abuse at games and on social media by a certain section of fans.

    If you ridicule young players either at games or on social media don’t expect their confidence to be sky high to perform how you wish.

    Have to say I agree with uti99 on this one, two of the posters on this topic who have expressed a preference for Wootton again due to his non league form are the ones who described him when he played for us as ” utter dog mess ” and ” not even non league standard “. I realise people are allowed a change of mind but the hypocrisy on Wooton is laughable, if the Iron approach Wooton about a return he should tell them to shove it. If Notts Couty get back in the league next season he will have been justified plus they are a much bigger club then us anyway both factually and historically, why lower yourself.

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    Yes but he would be coming here for mega bucks, but…..

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    A lot of logic in there, although hindsight is a wonderful thing

    To be fair I often talk a lot of rubbish but I actually said that at the time we let him go. I always said we should have signed Wootton to a contract and loaned him out. I said the same with Godden as well.

    Certain people will claim Wootton had a fair crack at the whip but dipping people in and out all the time or playing them as loan strikers in a somewhat struggling team is crazy when they’re inexperienced is crazy.

    We keep letting raw talent who need game time go either for free or nominal fee’s and other people are profiting…it’s baffling.

    I honestly don’t understand why we can’t offer these types of players 2 yr contracts and just send them out on loan with the loan team picking up their wage.

    Short sighted stupidity.

    Iron awe don’t make up utter rubbish. Leave that to the resident club stooge.

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    It always makes me laugh when some say “why did we let him go?” when most of these players have been subjected to dogs abuse at games and on social media by a certain section of fans.

    If you ridicule young players either at games or on social media don’t expect their confidence to be sky high to perform how you wish.

    Any answers on the ‘reasons to be optimistic’ issue yet? If you keep avoiding this I’ll start to think you don’t have any!

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    Charlie Wyke not the flavour of the month in Sunderland last night!

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    We sent Wottonn out on numerous loan spells and his goal scoring record was woeful. He then got a decent run in a league one team and played a part in us going down.

    I don’t know how many more opportunities you expect us to give him?

    It’s obviously clicked for him at Notts county and good for him, but I can’t blame the club on the decision to let him go.

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    Charlie Wyke not the flavour of the month in Sunderland last night!

    To be fair he’s not been that popular with the Sunderland fans generally.

    “Not the type of player we should be signing to get us back in the Championship”. “Why did we keep Wyke and send Will Grigg out on loan?”

    All sounds rather familiar, doesn’t it?

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    Ha ha, good old Burney with his selective memory, makes me think of the film ” A Few Good Men ” and that wonderfully delivered line by Jack Nicholson, ” You can’t handle the truth “. 😂

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    Seems more like Charlie doesn’t like the fans, telling them to f off.

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    I did not say that Hopper and Wootton were world beaters, but compared with the likes of our present retained players Turan, Loft, Hippolyite and Green at least they were far better players, these one’s we now have have no basic ball control whatsoever, but sadly if we di have world beaters, they would be thrown into our only style of playing, run all over like hradless chickens and hardly touch the ball.

    Deereyme, I understand what you say about meeting up with friends that you have sat near for many years, but I am sorry to say that most of those fans will no longer be attending also, I was at the Speedway meeting today, and the two friends that sit just in front of me told me that they had also finished as supporters after many years as fans, their watching of the i-follow games this season has also influenced their reasons, same as my own. Loyaly is one thing, but I think that loyalty is a two way thing, the club do not appear to be dshowing any loyalty themselves, first they get rid of any decent players like Gilliead who is our one player worth turning out to watch, then they take our clubs ground and land from us, and now they want us to remain loyal by turning out to watch a team of very poor players that are playing to a management team of clueless clowns that want to play defensive rubbish even ewhen playing at home, enough is enough. I have just paid out of my pension £240 season ticket + £230 for all away i-follower matches the season just ended, and cannot really remember a single game that was a joy to watch.

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    Fair enough BS if the people you sit near aren’t going either. It would still be getting you out and amongst it though. Many of us, I’m sure, appreciate you’ve had a very tough time over the last year or so. I just think the interaction would be good for you. Sorry if that sounds patronising. It’s meant in good faith.

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    Lol, I thought you said the Scorpions had a poor side this year BS? Just looked at the current team and not surprised they spanked Plymouth today. Most are quality riders. Hope you enjoyed it. And you got to see Jason Crump for probably the last time.

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    Yes Deerey, it turned out being an enjoyable two hours and lots of good riding, but we will not be racing against many two men teams this season. Funny thing though, there was a group of us consisting of two of my sons, the two good friends that have sat in front of me at GP for many yess, and three others that stand with us at Speedway, we had a good crack between us, but it turned very cold towards the end of the meeting. Sadly but understandably, all have lost any interest in attending any Iron games next season, they are like myself and cannot see any atraction any more. Thanks for your kind comments Deerey, certainly a nice gesture from you, and I am getting bye probably because of my close family of 3 sons and my daughter and all of the grand kids etc, take care yourself mate and as stated before, I shall still attend a few matches, but will certainly not comit myself for my usual season ticket, but it will be nice to see a few of the nearbye friends if any of them still go!!!!!

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