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    mistertonmickmistertonmick
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    I have no objection for solidarity against racism, I am all for it but why do we have to do it the American way everytime, doesn’t one countries Rugby team link arms instead, to me that looks better.

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    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    I have no objection for solidarity against racism, I am all for it but why do we have to do it the American way everytime, doesn’t one countries Rugby team link arms instead, to me that looks better.

    Didn’t the Tiller Girls link arms and perform high kicking dance routines on Sunday Night At The London Palladium back in the early 60’s? Bloody hell mick you will have the players doing the hokey cokey next.

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    Take your point Mick but there’s hundreds of Americanisms already here, why should this one be such a problem?

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    IronaweIronawe
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    If people get more triggered by an anti-racist gesture than racism what does that say about them?

    If people get more triggered with wokism than racism what does that say about them?

    Multimillionaire footballers are not doing it to support some faux Marxist policy dreamt up by the daily heil and lapped up by the gammons.

    Taking the knee is no more political than signing Rule Britannia, God save the queen, (what about No Surrender or the other guff that they sing). Let’s face it we have had more to boo over the years than footballers showing solidarity with those who wish to be treated as equals.

    When you listen to the James OBrien interview it goes to show that when you delve into it the counter argument basically fell flat and it does become hard to offer an argument without appearing just a little bit racist.

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    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    Having said that, it probably would be for the best if they chose a different form of protest if only to stop this constant accusation of Marxism. It would also be interesting to see if the booing disappeared. Somehow I doubt it.

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    mistertonmickmistertonmick
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    But is taking the knee actually working, I don’t like racism and would never boo at players taking the knee but I would prefer they didn’t do it, it certainly hasn’t stopped racism on social media and certainly believe people who do racially abuse other races should be prosecuted, and Iron-awe I never mentioned dancing

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    Yossarian LivesYossarian Lives
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    will Deirdrie stop chatting shit somehow i doubt it

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    Yossarian LivesYossarian Lives
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    we have two mr snores!

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    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    It doesn’t seem to be working Mick, no. What else to do, I don’t know.

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    Yossarian LivesYossarian Lives
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    theres not much you do know Deirdre

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    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    Go away troll. No one is interested in this or your xxx account.

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    Everytime refereePat O’Cake
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    I fail to understand why people are so bothered whether they do it or not? Each to their own and it’s no sweat of my arse whether a player choses to take part or not. Live and let live!

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    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    I don’t like racism and would never boo at players taking the knee but I would prefer they didn’t do it, i

    But if they stopped doing it would it not be a victory for racism?

    That’s certainly what the closets on here would think. Clearly not enough is being done otherwise you wouldn’t still be getting the racial abuse on social media.

    The problem is with us all year round too. So no point in doing it once a year or having a BLM month.

    We all need to pull together, but the boo-boys have put the mockers on that!

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    Personally, as a symbol, as a gesture, I think it loses a lot of its power through repetition but to stop now doesn’t really seem an option.

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    As a white, middle-aged football fan who has never experienced racism directed towards my ethnicity nor heritage, I will never truly understand what those affected by racism and inequality have experienced.

    I am totally against racism, and support 100% any gesture or action that brings it to the attention of the wider public. If a player chooses to take a knee to express their disgust at racism then I will support them without a second thought.

    Sadly you only need to look at social media to realise that racism is still alive, and in some corners, thriving. If taking a knee keeps it in the public eye then I am all for it. After all, it only truly offends those who are offended by anti-racism, and you know what that makes them!

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    Have you seen the video on youtube where one of the American founders of the Black Lives Matter movement, a certain Patrisse Cullors openly admits she’s a trained Marxist ?

    I’ll dig it out.

    I saw it on youtube last week.

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    mistertonmickmistertonmick
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    You look for some strange YouTube videos Burny.

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    WonderGoalsWonderGoals
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    I clicked on a post on twitter so looked up the video on youtube, which obviously came from there.

    This is some info on Cullors

    Cullors, 36, was the protégé of Eric Mann, former agitator of the Weather Underground domestic terror organization, and spent years absorbing the Marxist-Leninist ideology that shaped her worldview.

    “The first thing, I think, is that we actually do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia in particular are trained organizers,” she said, referring to BLM co-founder Alicia Garza.

    “We are trained Marxists. We are super-versed on, sort of, ideological theories. And I think that what we really tried to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many black folk,”

    The last 2 paragraphs actually came from her own mouth.

    Just about sums this movement up.

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    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    A trained Marxist eh WG, is that where students have to jump through red hoops covered in gold stars shouting ” viva la revolution “? FFS, millionaire footballers have nothing in common with Marxism and are voluntarily taking the knee to highlight racism within football and all aspects of life for that matter. If people are booing because they are sick of seeing it well maybe we should boo the National anthem before internationals, plenty of people are sick of hearing that but they just get on with it and still support the England team. All this booing for ten seconds knee taking before a game is bollocks when you consider all the other stuff we routinely put up with without booing before games.

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    “Trained Marxist”?

    Lenin en-route from Switzerland to Russia?

    They don’t half come up with some daft stuff!

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    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    “Trained Marxist”?

    Lenin en-route from Switzerland to Russia?

    They don’t half come up with some daft stuff!

    Aye and let’s not forget this stuff has come from You Tube, I mean everybody knows everything posted on You Tube is true, right? 🤔🙄😂

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    Patrisse Cullors created the hashtag, which is what the bulk of BLM is. The actual organisation will number far less than the people protesting. I doubt that everyone going to protests is part of some mass conspiracy to convert everyone to Marxism. Especially not footballers. Most are just bothered about racism.

    Socialists appear at every protest, if it’s left wing inclined, and say stuff like Patrisse. It is a tactic they use to gain sympathy; if they go to a righteous cause people may think they’re good. Does this sully anything remotely left wing because the SWP and associated groups latch themselves on? So does this mean that protests against the Iraq war, student loans increases, gay rights, women’s rights, for the NHS and against spending cuts are/were actually for Marxist indoctrination instead? If so, why haven’t the far left groups like the SWP seen any kind of mass support in the many years they have been dallying around protests like a bad smell? Heck, the Iraq War protests were organised by SWP and CPGB types, yet no socialist revolution beckoned.

    It could be that most who go to such protests do so out of solidarity for what it represents. The socialists often push themselves to the front, because they’re politically organised, but few in number. I don’t see why this should take away from the message; racism doesn’t become a non-issue because socialists get involved.

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    #208394
    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    Absolutely BRI but Burney believes it so it must be true. 😂

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    Yossarian LivesYossarian Lives
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    they are all up their own arses. mr snore, nye, BRIan, wonder bowels and Dazza.

    #208397
    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    …but can your bird sing?

    #208403
    Big JBig J
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    With St George in my heart!
    Keep me English!
    With St George in my heart I pray!
    With St George in my heart!
    Keep me English!
    Keep me English!
    Till my dying day!

    No surrender!
    No surrender!
    No surrender to BLM!
    Scum!

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    Yossarian-lives

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    So you’ve been around for 7.33 years yet those 41 replies have been posted in the last five weeks.

    All of them bar one are personal insults aimed at regular contributors to whom you have given childish nicknames. The one that wasn’t was a religious video designed to test out the atheists on the board, or perhaps to coax BPG into one of his evangelical rants.

    You are listed as “participant” but you are yet to participate in any discussion.

    It would be nice to know what your views are on taking the knee, human rights in China or even Scunthorpe United’s current predicament.

    But no, just a long list of name calling and innuendo.

    Seven years a member of IB would suggest you are not a twelve year-old. Nor seemingly is your alter-ego Xxx.

    If you have to contribute then try participating in the discussion rather than firing a cheap shot.

    Thank you!

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    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    Good job NI, I see the Nazi dog has returned, didn’t think it would take him long, after all what is a Nazi without his propaganda.

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    Yossarian LivesYossarian Lives
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    you cant sing blowjob. you and lord kkkitchener should start the iron bru national front to spare the rest of us.

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    stop stalking me nye or i will call the police. shows how sad people are on here.

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