Sack Cox Now

Iron Bru Forums Blast Furnace Sack Cox Now

  • Author
    Posts
  • #211727
    SharpShooter24Sharp_Shooter24
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: April 24, 2014
    Topics: 76

    Absolutely out of his depth

    Never a manager!!!
    He’s Got away with being one for this long due to COVID and his long term association with the football club…. Oh and he’s a yes man!
    It looks like Peter says jump and he asks how high!!

    It’s time PS gave the job to a proven manger and actually let him make the decisions… as always Way too much interference!!!

    This club has become a laughing stock in Lincolnshire when we used to be the Pride of it!!

    5 users thanked author for this post.
    #211730
    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
    Moderator
    Offline
    Registered On: January 3, 2014
    Topics: 61

    Oh and he’s a yes man!

    Hurst wasn’t, and we know what happened to him. Swann doesn’t want an independent thinker.

    Great time to sack a manager, just after he’s brought in his choice of players (allegedly).

    What a bloody mess!

    4 users thanked author for this post.
    #211731
    apbeapb
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: December 24, 2013
    Topics: 0

    The problem at this club isn’t Cox – in the same way it hasn’t been the fault of the half a dozen who have gone before him.

    He’s a manager not a water diviner.

    The problem is the systemic poor decision making and what appears to be the blind arrogance at the top level of the club -which has degenerated into nothing more than an abject comedy over the last 3 seasons.

    4 users thanked author for this post.
    #211734
    WonderGoalsWonderGoals
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: December 27, 2013
    Topics: 79

    The problem at this club isn’t Cox

    The problems stem from more than 1 person, I think we all know that. Cox is a big part of it though as he defies logic and his tactical nous is absolutely awful.

    Tonight’s team he fielded was strange/stupid and he said after the 1st match, yes the 1st game of the season that it reminded him of last season where the players just sort of did what they wanted.

    Taking into consideration it’s a near new squad of players you have to seriously question Cox. Put it this way, if this carries on along the same theme as last season with a fresh squad of players then I know who I’ll be blaming.

    It’s his job as a manager to get his tactics across if a fresh squad of players don’t take them on board then it the book stops with him as that’s his job.

    4 users thanked author for this post.
    #211736
    lesgeolesgeo
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: December 25, 2013
    Topics: 96

    As far as I could tell, we defended well, created chances, were always in the game and fell to a spectacular goal. We had improved markedly from the Swindon game. Personally, I would not have played Pugh – but credit to the lad – seems to have had a decent game. (Would perhaps like to know who might have prevented the goal by stopping the cross into the box. Commentators did not name names.)

    Irrespective of all that, this second defeat has serious ramifications.

    With our very stretched squad, Neil had few options where formations were concerned.

    To me, the root cause of the the problems we are facing from now on will be that the chances of us attracting a few decent Championship loanees have almost disappeared altogether.
    A team which was in a relegation dogfight has changed its squad. Great. The trouble is that it may well not look strong enough to compete. If I were a decent 20 year old at Bramall Lane – would I be bovvered to drive 40 miles to play for a club which has not only got a leftover poor reputation – but appears not to have improved since last season?

    Sorry to keep harking on about that 31st May date – but as other clubs built – we hesitated and on the 11th of August, we are key players short.

    The quality of potential loanee signings has now reduced.

    Back to crossing fingers and scratting around for OOC players who are not a total dead loss?

    Neil’s fault? – I doubt it. Showing faith in Pugh is no sacking offence.

    Which established manager – replete with large magic wand in his backpack – might we turn to? This really is a ‘rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic situation’.

    A win against a poor Rochdale side is now getting to be rather desperately needed. A defeat would not be total disaster but would inflict further damage onto a low spec warship already suffering torpedo damage.

    1 user thanked author for this post.
    #211740
    FerriteFerrite
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: December 23, 2013
    Topics: 91

    How many seasons have we started with a “sack the manager” post? Certainly the last three, possibly four or five going back to Alexander.

    #211744
    lesgeolesgeo
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: December 25, 2013
    Topics: 96

    In my 55 years as a FAN – I have never felt quite as sorry for any manager as I do for Cox. (Explanations are surely unnecessary!)
    There was a point last season where it could have been tried – maybe. I know I certainly got very frustrated with his tactics at one point. But there was more going on off the pitch than we knew, back then.

    These are now his players and yey – hit by injuries from before and after Day One!
    Squad still incomplete in the second week of the new season. Can that even be arguably his fault?
    We are told that he is an ‘incompetent manager’ – this is not evidence when there are other possible explanations.
    I argue that, in all honesty, we really do not know.

    #211745
    Bartoniron66Bartoniron66
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: May 29, 2017
    Topics: 56

    That’s where the problems started! the day the chairman sacked graham for some reason only known to the two of them, it has been downhill ever since that day.

    We look like a side that doesn’t have any confidence at all, I believe we have some decent players and they are good enough for this league.

    I still think we need a young recently retired attacking coach as mark lillis for me is not in touch with the modern game, sometimes you just out of the game for to long to be in touch with the game anymore.

    2 users thanked author for this post.
    #211747
    FerriteFerrite
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: December 23, 2013
    Topics: 91

    I believe we have some decent players and they are good enough for this league.

    Who would they be? Maybe Alfie Beestin, George Taft, Perry given his past? Not sure many others would attract many offers if they were made available tomorrow.

    Completely agree about Mark Lillis, I thought that was a very strange decision to bring him back.

    2 users thanked author for this post.
    #211752
    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
    Moderator
    Offline
    Registered On: January 3, 2014
    Topics: 61

    Neil’s fault? – I doubt it. Showing faith in Pugh is no sacking offence.

    But putting an U23s CM at RB for the THIRD time (not all under Cox admittedly) has to raise questions.

    1 user thanked author for this post.
    #211756
    anoldironanoldiron
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: December 27, 2013
    Topics: 2

    Geoff Stelling was very astute and must look at the goings on at the club and wet himself laughing.

    2 users thanked author for this post.
    #211776
    bartonscorpionbartonscorpion
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: July 20, 2015
    Topics: 43

    In my 55 years as a FAN – I have never felt quite as sorry for any manager as I do for Cox. (Explanations are surely unnecessary!)
    There was a point last season where it could have been tried – maybe. I know I certainly got very frustrated with his tactics at one point. But there was more going on off the pitch than we knew, back then.

    These are now his players and yey – hit by injuries from before and after Day One!
    Squad still incomplete in the second week of the new season. Can that even be arguably his fault?
    We are told that he is an ‘incompetent manager’ – this is not evidence when there are other possible explanations.
    I argue that, in all honesty, we really do not know.

    Les—–Surely it is the Manager that has a say on who he brings into the club, it is the manager who picks the team, it is the manager that instructs the players what system is to be played, it is the manager that brings on subs and changes things if they are not going toplan, so if it is not the managers fault that his team keep losing match after match(last season included) and play defensive shite, whoe’s bloody fault is it, it certainly is the fault of the manager at ALL OTHER CLUBS so why not at Scunthorpes ???????????????????????????

    1 user thanked author for this post.
    #211778
    Lord KitchenerLord Kitchener
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: December 24, 2013
    Topics: 34

    I knew it wouldn’t take long, and it is the typical knee jerk reaction that is played out on this board year in year out. How many managers can we afford to keep hiring them paying off?

    Disappointed that the op didn’t entitle this thread ‘Cox Out!’

    1 user thanked author for this post.
    #211779
    FerriteFerrite
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: December 23, 2013
    Topics: 91

    I knew it wouldn’t take long, and it is the typical knee jerk reaction that is played out on this board year in year out. How many managers can we afford to keep hiring them paying off?

    Disappointed that the op didn’t entitle this thread ‘Cox Out!’

    I agree with every word of this, especially the last two.

    2 users thanked author for this post.
    #211780
    IronfanIronfan
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: December 23, 2013
    Topics: 2

    That’s where the problems started! the day the chairman sacked graham for some reason only known to the two of them, it has been downhill ever since that day.

    I find it amusing when supporters hark back and say its all gone down hill since Alexander was sacked. Let’s not forget that he was managing during a time when money was no object. Dropping players, playing players out of position and negative team formation ultimately led to a loss in form and his sacking. I don’t think there was too many fans sorry to see him go at the time. If still here, I doubt he would fair any better than Cox under the current restraints brought on from above.

    #211781
    AwaywegoAwaywego
    Participant
    Online
    Registered On: June 20, 2017
    Topics: 137

    I remember GA getting criticized for not dropping Morris even though he was scoring goals, then he got the sack even though he fulfilled his brief, of making the playoffs twice (if only).

    #211785
    bartonscorpionbartonscorpion
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: July 20, 2015
    Topics: 43

    I cannot ever remember any supporter wanting Morris dropping, he was similar to Gilliead, most fans attended games because they were playing.
    Alexander had a good run of results at Scunthorpe, but he changed the playing system that last season he was here, about January when we were top of the League and playing really entertaining football, he suddenly changed it to do not lose style, we got 3 points from the next 9 matches after that change. We will never know why he changed it, or was instructed to change it, but When I asked him this question,he just said that teams had sussed Scunny out and the system needed changing. This made no sense what so ever to me, whilst being top of the League and winning entertaining games, I will never understand his answer to my question!!!

    But this topic is about Cox, he must hold the worst ever Scunthorpe managers record in the 71 year clubs League record, I am not certain, but I think that there was a manager called Rooks possibly in the 70s or 80s that was terrible, but apart from the Cox record of not able to win games, the enjoyment is pathetic.

    2 users thanked author for this post.
    #211787
    AwaywegoAwaywego
    Participant
    Online
    Registered On: June 20, 2017
    Topics: 137

    Course you can’t remember BS you can’t even remember the results from last year, then you can’t even remember to post you were wrong about it, probably your age BS.

    #211788
    Deereyme66Deereyme66
    Moderator
    Offline
    Registered On: May 8, 2017
    Topics: 79

    I remember there were some calls on here to drop Morris due to his attitude at the time and not tackling enough. Not loads but there were some, and a fair bit of criticism that he was a luxury player who we couldn’t justify having on the pitch for his occasional flashes of brilliance. It was about the time he riled some fans with a gesture in response.

    1 user thanked author for this post.
    #211796
    lesgeolesgeo
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: December 25, 2013
    Topics: 96

    BS remembers correctly why Alexander was sacked.
    That change of playing system cost us promotion – he did not deserve to survive after that.

    I thought that most had agreed on here that we’d give Coxy a chance for at least a dozen games at the start of this season. Injuries (again!) players not through the door early enough etc, etc. No money to bring in a forward.

    You do not judge a manager after one league game when he still has a millstone attached to his leg by strong chains.

    His formation at Barrow made sense to me. Okay – he could have played Loft and Jessop but that was a risk. And like most on here – I really hate lone forward line-ups.

    3-5-1-1 was pretty much inevitable for a game of that type.

    1 user thanked author for this post.
    #211877
    IRONINTHEBLOODIRONINTHEBLOOD
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: January 7, 2014
    Topics: 9

    A dozen games might be too much ,if we are stranded at the bottom we will not be as lucky as last year and stay up by the skin of our teeth.

    #211878
    AwaywegoAwaywego
    Participant
    Online
    Registered On: June 20, 2017
    Topics: 137

    Was that a risk that we might win playing loft and Jessop, lesgeo?.

    #211879
    lesgeolesgeo
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: December 25, 2013
    Topics: 96

    It’s what I’d do – but he knows Harry far better than I ever could so …

    #214608
    SharpShooter24Sharp_Shooter24
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: April 24, 2014
    Topics: 76

    So… we are now 10 games in, the magical point in time where managers at all levels have said they start judging the table.

    We sit bottom of the league!!
    We are the worst professional football team in the whole country!!

    Cox is a shit football manager and HAS to go…
    yes Peter Swann is the real (long term) problem but Cox doesn’t understand football management at all… he’s embarrassing himself now!!
    We could still stay up with someone else in charge as long as the appointment is a good one with PS keeping his nose out of the first team affairs… like he should have with so many previous managers!

    6 users thanked author for this post.
    #214612
    IRONINTHEBLOODIRONINTHEBLOOD
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: January 7, 2014
    Topics: 9

    Has he gone yet,any other manager in the football league would have been sacked weeks ago.

    1 user thanked author for this post.
    #214618
    alcazaralcazar
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: December 24, 2013
    Topics: 50

    If Swann doesn’t sack him now, he must be satisfied with the position we now hold.

    Why?

    Does he want us to lose our league status?

    #214620
    Iron-aweIron-awe
    Participant
    Offline
    Registered On: June 21, 2017
    Topics: 11

    The Prawn is only interested in how much money he is currently putting in ( not much ) and how much money, a redevelopment of housing on the site the ground currently stands on, will return ( quite a lot ). Nothing else will be of interest to him. SUFC who?

    1 user thanked author for this post.
    #214628
    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
    Moderator
    Offline
    Registered On: January 3, 2014
    Topics: 61

    Cox is now like a punch-drunk boxer. He keeps getting back into the ring or up off the canvas, only to be poleaxed again by a left hook.

    His seconds are of no use and his manager is making a mint by betting on the opposition.

    SUFC rapidly becoming a basket case!

  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.