Pounds for the Pitch with Unity and Mugman Dave

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  • #316563
    CMCCMC
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    Can understand where IFA is coming from.
    When that greasy haired prick was installed I thought that was me done.
    But no you can’t lose the habit even if you don’t get there too often.

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    BottesfordIrons5North Lincolnshire Irons
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    We definitely wont be donating to this Pound for a Pitch malarkey. In fact we find the whole begging thing quite embarrassing as Scunthotpe United supporters, particularly seeing one of our owners on the begging page with Dave and co. As previously said directors come in and enjoy the matchday experience and hospitality, but then still expect all the money back which they put in if and when they decide to leave. We supporters who can afford to are happy to buy season tickets, and if not matchday tickets, and also spend money at the catering points and bars. But we feel this is a step too far and if the current board cant even budget for the pitch with gates of over 5000 then new investors should be looked for. When do we supporters get free hospitality meals and drinks included in our matchday experience?
    In our opinion the bad state of the pitch has to be the responsibility of the owners as they make the decisions as to who to employ to lay and maintain it, and should not expect supporters to fund it.

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    #316576
    ironlion82ironlion82
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    I cannot understand why Michelle and the Board are all over this Dave guy and the Unity Group but seem to distance themselves from the Trust who are a well run audited democratically elected group who with around 1200 members represent 25% of the current fan base.
    Is it because instead of giving hand outs to the Club they want shares in return so the fans who donate get something in return ?
    Having people run round with buckets asking for donations to this and that does not look like a very professional way for the Club to get money.
    I see there is also a just giving page but if you subtract the bucket money and the one donation of £500 the uptake on this seems very slow.

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    #316581
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    I think you have hit the nail on the head, ironlion. The club seems to only want contributions from fans in the form of pro bono services and donations, but doesn’t appear to value the role of the Trust as a/the key channel for fan engagement.

    We know the fans are the constant while owners and Directors come and go. This
    current fundraiser begs the question why can’t we pay for pitch maintenance as part of running costs and from current revenue. (It also looks desperate and amateur). More importantly, is the current regime sustainable financially? I get that they inherited debt and that needs to be cleared, but where does that stand now? As others have said, we have we have no reserve team, academy or our own ground staff. Our training pitch will need to be replaced, or bought or leased from NLC. If we want to progress further, we will need more investment and I don’t see that coming from the current model.
    That’s not to say that the current owners have not done a huge amount in bringing the club back from the brink, making progress on the field and in stabilising things off it. It is also great to have genuine fans at the helm.

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    #316589
    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    The buckets and blankets collections of the past are pointless now.

    No one carries cash around anymore!

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    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    Blankets, Now that is nostalgic NI, as rough and ready we were back in the day twas treated with respect.
    Imagine letting people throwing coins with permission in this era.

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    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    Blankets, Now that is nostalgic NI, as rough and ready we were back in the day twas treated with respect.
    Imagine letting people throwing coins with permission in this era.

    Seen a few young lads at the wall in the DRE get their heads cut open by thrown coins from the back of the stand back in the old charity blanket collecting days, not a very intelligent or safe way to collect money thank goodness it’s gone.

    #316603
    ironlion82ironlion82
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    It seems to me that the Club back Dave and Unity because they do what the Club wants where as the Trust is democratically run by the members.
    If the Trust are prepared to raise money in return for shares is this really a bad thing ? The Club still get the money.
    One thing is certain you cannot continually run a business by asking for hand outs from your customers or in our case fans.

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    #316610
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    One thing is certain you cannot continually run a business by asking for hand outs from your customers or in our case fans.

    It’s not a business, it’s a community institution that, by operational necessity, has to have an element of being run like a business… And supporters of a club our size have to realise that the price they ought to pay for being a supporter, to keep the club afloat and alive, is way more than the cost of tickets.

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    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    No it’s a business, if it was Michelle and co would have no problem with selling on as many shares as were wanted by anyone.
    Community institutions can’t be taken over by an individual, they produce business accounts because it’s a Business.
    4 directors make all the decisions, and we have no say In the running of the club whatsoever.

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    No it’s a business, if it was Michelle and co would have no problem with selling on as many shares as were wanted by anyone.
    Community institutions can’t be taken over by an individual, they produce business accounts because it’s a Business.
    4 directors make all the decisions, and we have no say In the running of the club whatsoever.

    You have very narrow vision.

    #316613
    saleironsaleiron
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    I agree with this perspective.

    No it’s a business, if it was Michelle and co would have no problem with selling on as many shares as were wanted by anyone.
    Community institutions can’t be taken over by an individual, they produce business accounts because it’s a Business.
    4 directors make all the decisions, and we have no say In the running of the club whatsoever.

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    And like I said before you want to treat as a business in one breath then a community in the other. Especially when it comes to ticket pricing.
    You fully supported the club taking advantage of pricing box holders out by the absorbent increase, one which had been a holder for years with his family.
    And now you tell us we’ve should help out other than tickets, food, programmes shirts halftime draw the club lottery and other miscellanea.
    Remind me what extra the club give to me.

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    No it’s a business, if it was Michelle and co would have no problem with selling on as many shares as were wanted by anyone

    For the last 18 months they have been selling shares to those who want them, including approx 13k worth to the Iron Trust.

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    barriethomasbarriethomas
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    I always carry cash. Just saying. UTWI

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    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    You well know that Michelle was only prepared to sell so many shares so not to jeopardize her position at the top.
    She put a deadline on hence why only 13k worth by the deadline against the trust share builder of £100,000 worth.
    Ps. Have you forgot about the fc100,000 debacle, they really involved us there didn’t they. Unless of course you were one of the privileged, Gareth and the rest of the positive people.

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    #316640
    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
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    A very simple and straight forward question.
    Are we a “professional” football club?

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    #317271
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    See Mug man Dave announcing there’s some exciting announcements coming soon on pounds for the pitch,do I hate that if you’ve got something to announce just bloody announce ffs.
    Maybe it wouldn’t go amiss to announce the running total, how much have the club received, the unity group, and how much have they received from the last 2 home game bucket collections, and gofundme.
    Their lack of transparency could well earn the right to say the whole thing looks dodgy to say the least.

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    ironlion82ironlion82
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    Think it’s just over £2k on go fund me page.
    £1200 from first bucket collection and one donation of £500 so it’s hardly flying !
    Have they announced last 2 bucket collections ?

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    mkironMK Iron
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    Apologies meant that one for the Sutton thread. Senior moment.

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    I’ll move it to that one MKI

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    #317359
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    We definitely wont be donating to this Pound for a Pitch malarkey. In fact we find the whole begging thing quite embarrassing as Scunthotpe United supporters, particularly seeing one of our owners on the begging page with Dave and co. As previously said directors come in and enjoy the matchday experience and hospitality, but then still expect all the money back which they put in if and when they decide to leave. We supporters who can afford to are happy to buy season tickets, and if not matchday tickets, and also spend money at the catering points and bars. But we feel this is a step too far and if the current board cant even budget for the pitch with gates of over 5000 then new investors should be looked for. When do we supporters get free hospitality meals and drinks included in our matchday experience?
    In our opinion the bad state of the pitch has to be the responsibility of the owners as they make the decisions as to who to employ to lay and maintain it, and should not expect supporters to fund it.

    Hmmmm.
    Back to the bad old days of Wharton’s “freeloaders”???

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    TheHopeThatKnillsYouTheHopeThatKnillsYou
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    No donations on the fundraising page for almost two weeks, and I note the Unity football cards have been a struggle to fill recently.

    No new card as yet today (Wednesday) as a big chunk of the card from Sunday remains unfilled looking at their group post.

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    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    Can’t believe the club got behind it it’s such a bad look and comes across as being greedy, as if there’s not enough revenue streams already.

    Match ticket (season ticket holders will forget they have actually paid to get in Ching Ching) food and drink at the game, half time draw (they only made £480 last night what a shame) monthly lottery (they’ll forget about that as well ching ching) never mind shirts and merchandise.

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