Pounds for the Pitch with Unity and Mugman Dave

[unity iron]

Can we not do better than this? Why have the club aligned themselves with a guy who prints his face on mugs and hands them out to kids and Stuart Maw, who salaciously messaged teenagers on Twitter?

With such a history of dodgy money handling and well publicised use of fans funds to subsidise his own away travel.

We have to do better than this.

[Deereyme66]

Where’s the harm in it if the club are backing it, all funds are accounted for and go to the intended cause?

[Deereyme66]

Someone has sensibly asked if the Unity group is a registered charity with audited or independently examined accounts. I just assumed it was. I do hope so. I’d forgotten about the away travel topic.

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They should loan the such a large sum of cash to club they might then get an equal share of the club given to them

[ironfromafar]

unity iron wrote:

Can we not do better than this? Why have the club aligned themselves with a guy who prints his face on mugs and hands them out to kids and Stuart Maw, who salaciously messaged teenagers on Twitter?

With such a history of dodgy money handling and well publicised use of fans funds to subsidise his own away travel.

We have to do better than this.

Just logged in to try n find a new local gambling site feed to actually watch the game rather than just HR commentary and so far its looking good .. moving on
At the same time i read this new pounds for pitch idea by the Unity and group and incorporating a special mention to one n only Poz Dave..
I have to agree with the above post WTF .. the club should get away from this hand out begging mentality and get a structured ecconomic plan regarding the pitch and stadium rather than the get the “me on camera im important” attention seeking of “super fans” ..
The fans have and are doing their part week in week out even letting some fan directed obtuse comments by AB dissapear like a fart in the wind.

SUFC is a business and IMO has had more than enough charitable assistance over the last few years so surely the owners should sort out the pitch issue ..

Poz Dave just wants to be involved at any cost .. alas hes making himself look like a proper wanna be twat whilst trying to do so.

Even though im over seas and have donated funds numerous times in the past via ppl on the ground in Scunny i really cant be arsed anymore when the clubs only answer seems to be .. lets go to the fans for cash vis the likes of Unity and this Dave fella.

BOOM ..

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unity iron wrote:

With such a history of dodgy money handling and well publicised use of fans funds to subsidise his own away travel.

We have to do better than this.

Considering they’re mentioned all the time in club comms, they don’t care.

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[Deereyme66]

Might be mistaken, but I recall the group were applying for charitable status in the past. Did that happen and was it approved by the charity commission? There are reasons this process is in place to ensure accountability.

[Deereyme66]

‘twould be better putting money into the club itself one would think’

Unfair to throw in Epstein, but definitely agree with this.

[Awaywego]

Well he’s met every other man and his dog Deerey, and I’m under no illusion and doubt you are that given the chance we would have had that thumbs up photo.
Told the younger grandson to keep away from him just to be on the safe side.

[Bhuna5]

Would anybody donate money to a company that has laid 2 bad pitches in the last 2 seasons ??
Its expensive enough at football, surely up to the club to sort the pitch out, not the fans..

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[cassidystash]

An opinion:-
Done twice on the cheap out of necessity and it would appear that we’ll have to do the same again unless extra funds can be found. Don’t blame the lad for trying and don’t knock the club for encouraging the initiative.

[Awaywego]

Course we gonna blame him for his self servantcy.
As for the club!

[saleiron]

A few thoughts.

1. Why wouldn’t the club partner with the Trust as a reputable, properly constituted supporters’ group with a successful track record in fund raising and crowd funding?
2. If the club can’t cover running costs on current gates, perhaps they need to be looking for new investors? Crowd funding basic running costs isn’t sustainable.
3. As a minimum, the club should be opening up the books to fans to show why it can’t currently cover running costs.

Personally, I am having nothing to do with this as things stand.

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[Apollo11]

SUFC is a business and IMO has had more than enough charitable assistance over the last few years

It’s not a business, though, is it? It’s a longstanding community / social institution that, by necessity, has to have an element of being run as a business to function day to day / stay alive longer term.

If it IS only a business then you / we are merely customers – and I don’t think you or many others would really consider themselves that. In fact, I’d wager most would be insulted by that.

In my opinion, we all have some responsibility and we all have to accept the blurred lines a bit. It’s not “charity” as that suggests a slight disconnection from the club. It’s ‘what it takes to keep it going’ sometimes, and when it’s those times we all have to put in a little bit more than just simple purchases (tickets) if we can. Not necessarily money, but (for instance) the volunteering.

[Apollo11]

I should add, I applaud the sentiment but I don’t particularly like the set-up of this Pounds For The Pitch thing as it stands.

[TheJuryeffsOut]

But if someone with a lot of money comes in then the existing directors (who I applaud and thank wholeheartedly for everything) will add up what they’ve put in and hope to get a return on it. Suddenly it will fully be a business again …..

[Apollo11]

TheJuryeffsOut wrote:

But if someone with a lot of money comes in then the existing directors (who I applaud and thank wholeheartedly for everything) will add up what they’ve put in and hope to get a return on it. Suddenly it will fully be a business again …..

So enjoy it not being like that while it lasts? Do your bit, etc.

[Awaywego]

It’s a business. So fans give money with nothing coming back, Sharp and others put money in and want every penny back, which is there stated position at the moment, plus you were happy for it to be a business when it came to ticket prices especially when one of ours on here was as he saw it priced out of the box his family had for years.
No1 ok up to a point but as soon as they include Dave it’s wrong, plenty putting in a lot more than him all the volunteers for one.
No2 if the club can’t afford the running costs on the back of the gates there’s something seriously wrong, I mean they’re only running one team no ladies, academy, under 18s or schoolboy teams which most teams have even in lower divisions than ours.

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[Apollo11]

Awaywego wrote:

It’s a business. So fans give money with nothing coming back, Sharp and others put money in and want every penny back, which is there stated position at the moment, plus you were happy for it to be a business when it came to ticket prices especially when one of ours on here was as he saw it priced out of the box his family had for years.
No1 ok up to a point but as soon as they include Dave it’s wrong, plenty putting in a lot more than him all the volunteers for one.
No2 if the club can’t afford the running costs on the back of the gates there’s something seriously wrong, I mean they’re only running one team no ladies, academy, under 18s or schoolboy teams which most teams have even in lower divisions than ours.

It’s not a business. It’s a community institution which has to have an element of being run as a business.

[ironfromafar]

No its a business .. when it suits .. then when when fans are asked to dig deep again via whatever n whoever it suddenly becomes a ” community asset” ..

I wont donate for this pitch gig as surely its down to the owners of the club to come up with an economic plan to get it done from income raised from the prolonged spell of high gate receipts , merch sales , season tickets AND CHARITABLE DONATIONS already received.. there comes a time when the club constantly accepting fan goodwill and taking it for granted becomes a piss take.

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[Bhuna5]

How much money would we have made if Away fans, Bostons 600 plus had bought a drink in the iron bar, but away fans are suddenly banned from the iron bar, which stinks.
There are stewards if they feared trouble.

[Awaywego]

Seems like they’ve put the money from Saturday’s bucket collection into the gofundme page £1200 that will now attract the 2.9% transaction fee.
Money down the drain that was kindly donated expecting it to be used wisely.
Tuther than that £125 in other donations made funnily enough none from dodgy Dave.

[Sanfran49]

Any ideas should be given to the club and let them sort things.

The only one that the club could not be consulted on was when IRON BRU did what he did – we didn’t have an owner just loyal employees who remained working for nothing.

[Deereyme66]

It’s worth the gofundme processing fee to use that platform awaywego

[Awaywego]

Not when the unity group says you can donate directly to the club referencing ‘pitch’without paying the % it isn’t.
The optics of it Makes it look so much better than the £125 lol.

[saleiron]

It seems like the scepticism around this crowd funder are not limited to a few naysayers. The total raised so far is just below £2000 and that includes £500 from one of the VPs.

[TwoWrights]

I don’t know what they intend to do to your pitch, but last year Hull dug theirs up, new drainage, heating system, and all soil removed and replaced, then reseeded. One and a half million quids worth, come this month and it’s threadbare and crap!

[ironfromafar]

this whole pounds for pitch is bollocks is just that ..
firstly its been created to satisfy the egos of the likes of Maw, Unity and POz Dave and all the recent super fan additions so thy can become relevant ..
Secondly the BovD should manage the club as business and the pitch as as an expense of the business as basic business policy.

This constant begging bowl mentality is wearing thin and even after near on 50 yrs supporting the club im fed up of it ..

When directors come in to the club they must realize its like owning a boat or a swimming pool .. just a never ending money pit swallowing the money .. ive had both and never again ..thankfully at no point would i consider buying into a FC as its simply a money pit and BAD INVESTMENT.

Good luck to SUFC best wishes to all the staff and fans but at this point in my life i am the complete opposite of Poz Dave and sadly my love , passion and even my historical ties for SUFC are dwindling… alas i think i may not be participating much in any form now on so i wish all bruers good health and happiness.

ps we simply cannot compete BUDGET WISE in NL yet and whilst others may disagree i still dont like AB as manager his attitude and stubbourness will come to bear.

THANKFULLY the club appears stable thanks to Michelle Harness and in some form will survive long after AB etc have moved on which is all that matters.

EL football is still a few seasons away .. i reckon at least 3

I BID YOU FAREWELL LADIES N GENTS

UTI one last time from IFA

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[Awaywego]

Bit drastic there IFA, bye you will be missed by me at least.
It’s Michelle and the club who’ve decided to get into bed with said mentioned, bad decision imo it makes them look desperate and needy and is not a good look.
The club could compete budget wise it’s they just choose not to.

[cassidystash]

I too will be sad to see you go IFA. Will a good nights sleep, a little alcohol, a soapy massage and a win against York be enough for a rethink?
(Or maybe 3 out of 4 as 4 looks ambitious)

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