More brexshit benefits

[Northumbiron]

Indeed, and you don’t have to be a “rejoiner” to admit Brexit has been a disaster.

Although there will be those who dig their heels in and refuse to do so!

[Deereyme66]

Almost as big a disaster as changing one football club owner to another with similar division! Whose idea was it in the first place? Who’s the Cameron?! 🤣

[Just Iron]

Heath wrote:

Mockery? Just pointing out the point that you have loads of friends who wouldn’t vote to rejoin is hardly the point is it?

OK. Maybe I was a bit touchy there, Heath. But surely it WAS the point. Daz said that surely nobody now would have any positives regarding Brexit. I challenged that statement from personal experience ..my own views and many I am in contact with. IA gives a far more rounded and sensible analysis ..although I don’t agree with all of it .. and didn’t play the race card or liken me to Bucks to ‘see me off.’ As ever ..just asking for a bit of respect when perspectives differ. It should be intrinsic to a healthy forum.

[Heath]

You don’t want to rejoin, I do.

You want a healthy forum (whatever that means), I prefer an edgy forum (whatever that means).

You don’t know me, I don’t know you.

You take offence, I don’t.

You are wrong, I am right!

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Just Iron

[Siderite]

I think having a respect for the other user isn’t a bad thing, Heath. Lord knows, I have moaned about Bucks for his disregard for what others are saying to stereotype, belittle and misrepresent them.

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[Northumbiron]

JI wrote: “Daz said that surely nobody now would have any positives regarding Brexit. I challenged that statement from personal experience. My own views and many I am in contact with.”

That would suggest that you do know of positives to come out of Brexit?

Please enlighten us as to what they are.

[Lord Kitchener]

BREXIT was a good idea, unfortunately the parliamentarians never wanted it. Camoron was convinced we would vote remain in a referendum, May believed that with the help of that little turd ‘speaker of the house’ to help her, she could kick the can so far down the road it would never be found. Then we had Boris, who I have got some sympathy for, as COVID was something no politician had any training for. But regardless of his attitude or his desires, he was stupid and useless. What came after Boris was one silly cow and another rich bastard who knows nothing about the struggles of the ordinary working class people.

BREXIT hasn’t been allowed to succeed, because NONE OF THE POLITICIANS WANT IT TO…

[Siderite]

It can’t possibly be because it was unworkable and those pushing it had no intention of being up front with the challenges, and instead resorting to finger wagging and waiving liability like above. We left with a ‘hard Brexit’ and it’s still not good enough, apparently.

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[SODIron]

OK, another question for the Brexit supporters.

What benefits did you expect Brexit would bring to this country?

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Northumbiron

[Deereyme66]

Whatever is listed, the caveat will be ‘but possibly not for another 20 years’ or bizzarely ‘not in my lifetime’. The real sign of the ‘true patriot’; putting the good of the country before experienced benefits. All totally credible, apparently.

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[Heath]

I bet he can’t give a clear set of reasons why it was a good idea, without abusing the French and the Germans.

Might be why they have the same problem coming up with a single positive now that Brexit has “got done”.

Maybe JI can help him out.

[Deereyme66]

Is one benefit being able to claim independent non-EU rights for your towel by the hotel pool?

[Iron Age]

Iron-awe wrote:

I will tell what I hear JI, a lot and I mean a lot of young people when asked say leaving the EU was something they didn’t vote for and could not see any sensible reason why we would leave our major trading partner group which, despite the money it cost the country each year to remain a part of it, still the benefits outweighed the negatives. Now I know an awful lot of older people who voted to leave who remain tight lipped and not very forthcoming about what they believe now. I believe that is down to the fact that they are older,some rather set in their ways, don’t like saying the are or were wrong very often but they will soon be gone whereas the younger generation are the ones who will be left with consequences of leaving the EU. Sure life will go on but at what cost to standards of living and more financial hardship, whilst bringing up a young family, then before. Just an opinion but I am sorry we left the EU, not for me because I’m doing ok thanks compared to some but then I retired five years ago and my path had been prepared for that over the previous fifty years of a working life, most of it in the EU, don’t think the younger ones will get that same equal opportunity IMO because we have left

The question will be in the future “What were you thinking?”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jun/01/brexit-historic-economic-error-larry-summers-former-us-treasury-secretary

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