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    fans6464
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    as well as the problems buying from suppliers for my woodworking hobby I am also having issues with things I used to take for granted being a ball ache.
    The latest two being buying tickets with the usual outlets and booking a campsite online,both of which I have done on several occasions before the full brexit and had no issues, where is this seemless deal we wouldn’t notice?
    Buying from Portugal now costs me £38 for fees and post only £7 to a mates in France for me to pick up while on holiday.Buying concert tickets in Norway had huge costs(£70) for a £100 ticket and I had to join ticketmaster there, previously not had that problem being inside the EU. Booking a campsite in Germany too was not straightforward on my usual site .Brexit is a joke we fell for , I guess we need to be singing Joni Mitchell over this

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    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    To be pedantic Norway is EFTA/EEA rather than EU, but yes, we no longer have the benefits of trading as we did before.

    Mrs NI has had similar problems sourcing materials for jewellery making and I’ve mentioned before our friend’s delicatessen supply fiasco.

    But hey, ho! Keep waving those Union Flags, it’s all been worth it.

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    at least BPG etc can be happy they don’t get any new brown neighbours OOPs?,which let’s face it for certain people that’s what brexit was and is about ,they’re still going on about it,now it’s boats and “safety” to hide their racism.

    #263073
    Lord KitchenerLord Kitchener
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    Best thing that has ever happened to this nation. Sure it will have teething problems, and I knew it would take time.

    I don’t care if I die before the real benefits kick in. We have wasted enough time kowtowing to the Germans and the French.

    #263076
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    What will cause these ‘teething problems’ to end? Those promised trade deals out of the EU are not bringing the same benefits.

    #263105
    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    Best thing that has ever happened to this nation. Sure it will have teething problems, and I knew it would take time.

    I don’t care if I die before the real benefits kick in. We have wasted enough time kowtowing to the Germans and the French.

    Oh don’t fret about that LK, you will deffo be dead before any Brexit benefits kick in, we all will on this thread. We have left our children and grandchildren with a huge burden on their futures though so well done Brexit Brigade.

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    #263131
    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    Shh! Don’t tell LK but our children and grandchildren will be campaigning to rejoin the EU.

    In fact it’s already started.

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    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    It’s not surprising, they’re the ones that have got the shittest deal out of it all. Hope this teaches the more apathetic amongst them to vote.

    #263164
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    I can assure you Fans64 ,I am not racist.
    To state I am is a false accusation.

    #263185
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    “Shh! Don’t tell LK but our children and grandchildren will be campaigning to rejoin the EU”.

    The majority that voted leave would like closer ties with Europe, including, it seems Fansy.

    Not aware that we have ever kowtowed to the Germans and the French. We never joined the Euro and Mrs T negotiated opt outs. All thrown away by the Brexiteers.

    #263187
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    Aye. If we are to rejoin I can’t see us not having to adopt the euro and we will probably have to join Schengen too.

    #263198
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    [Void]

    #263203
    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    Aye. If we are to rejoin I can’t see us not having to adopt the euro and we will probably have to join Schengen too.

    A ‘now look what you did!’ moment 🤣

    #263204
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    LK will I’m sure be back soon with his evidence for kowtowing.

    Straight bananas!

    #263205
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    The best deal we could possibly have is the deal we already had, hence Sunak trying to convince Northern Ireland that they would have the very best of both worlds.
    Didn’t we once have that?

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    LK will I’m sure be back soon with his evidence for kowtowing.

    Straight bananas!

    Well if he comes back with that one it will be deffo ” gone banana’s” IMO.

    #263236
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    Surely nobody still believes that Brexit was a good thing?

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    #263239
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    It would have been if the government had implemented the country’s wishes.

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    #263240
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    People still believe Hilton Anderson White is a good thing Daz! 🤣

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    #263241
    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    It would have been if the government had implemented the country’s wishes.

    It’s never the actual thing staring you in the face is it? Nah, never, I tells ye!!!!

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    #263242
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    It would have been if the government had implemented the country’s wishes.

    The people’s wish was to leave the EU. We have left the EU, so how they haven’t implemented Brexit is beyond me. Such cognitive dissonance is amazing.

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    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    It would have been if the government had implemented the country’s wishes.

    We used to be a Kingdom ruled by Kings. Then we became an Empire ruled by Emperors. Now we are a Country ruled by ……..

    Conservatives!

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    dandaherron@yahoo.co.ukJust Iron
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    Surely nobody still believes that Brexit was a good thing?

    I know loads of people who wouldn’t vote to re join. Personally I can see the challenges associated with our exit but would be against re joining. It may be helpful for you to define ‘good’ before making sweeping assumptions. It may also be beneficial to the ongoing debate to recognise that correlation is not causation ie just because we have current societal pressures it doesn’t necessarily mean that they were caused by Brexit … ask the Yellow Jackets in France, the Dutch farmers or the German economists who haven’t kept Germany out of recession. It’s complex.
    And …64 … it’s pathetic to keep playing the race card whenever anyone takes a view different to yours. Stop embarrassing yourself.

    #263248
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    It is complex, but things like Dutch farmer protests are not so connected to the economy. There are other factors, like covid, but the lack of growth, exports and inflation far higher than the rest of Europe indicates problems which affect the UK, predominantly. So much for sunlit uplands.

    Also, the indications are that people are dissatisfied with Brexit on the whole. Whether this would translate to rejoin, I don’t know, but I suspect rejoining wouldn’t happen for years, if it ever does. It does indicate a general mood that it hasn’t been a success though.

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    You have to look at the quality of the main Brexit cheerleaders and beneficiaries.
    Boris, Rees Mogg, Trump, Putin, Farage.
    Would you trust them to tell you the truth?
    Have they a hidden agenda?

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    “Current societal pressures” which the country is suffering? You mean economic, political and social crises, and more ‘red tape’, pretty much everywhere you look.

    Correlation and causation? Every area of the economy and society has been made worse by Brexit. The inevitable consequences of leaving which the Brexiters denied would happen, is happening. Just what do they think they’ve won? Name one law you’re happy about losing which made it all worthwhile.

    For the Tory party, campaigning for ‘leave’ and offering a referendum was only ever about in-fighting and stemming the loss of support by shifting the party further to the right. Even the leading Brexiters didn’t expect to win – Johnson had no plan of how to leave, until he was forced to produce the ‘oven ready’ version.

    And there’s JL thinking it will be 30 years before we’ll know if there are any benefits! Is that any sensible basis on which to take major decisions – even when you know it could be a disaster you’ll move house, start a new job, or vote in a referendum…. and then if it turns out to be egregiously bad, still give it 30 years, just to see??

    Oh, but I forgot… wasn’t there a friend you talked to, who said everything would be alright? Well, that’s fine for the rest of us, then.

    The sooner the country disposes of this government the better. More rubbish than in those M180 lay-bys. Put it on Facebook and send it to your friends….

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    #263252
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    “I know loads of people who wouldn’t vote to re join”.

    Very convincing, the old Bucks argument of I know some people. Cancel all the opinion polls, JI knows loads of people.

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    If you need to resort to mockery, Heath.. at least stay ‘on topic.’ I made no reference to polls or majorities. I simply answered statement from Daz about ‘Nobody’. If I know ‘somebody’ ..indeed a few of them ..is it unreasonable to point it out
    Gurney ..the fiend persuaded me last minute to vote remain. Your dossier has failed you this time. Why not ditch the lengthy response and just call me a racist. Saves bother

    #263257
    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    I will tell what I hear JI, a lot and I mean a lot of young people when asked say leaving the EU was something they didn’t vote for and could not see any sensible reason why we would leave our major trading partner group which, despite the money it cost the country each year to remain a part of it, still the benefits outweighed the negatives. Now I know an awful lot of older people who voted to leave who remain tight lipped and not very forthcoming about what they believe now. I believe that is down to the fact that they are older,some rather set in their ways, don’t like saying the are or were wrong very often but they will soon be gone whereas the younger generation are the ones who will be left with consequences of leaving the EU. Sure life will go on but at what cost to standards of living and more financial hardship, whilst bringing up a young family, then before. Just an opinion but I am sorry we left the EU, not for me because I’m doing ok thanks compared to some but then I retired five years ago and my path had been prepared for that over the previous fifty years of a working life, most of it in the EU, don’t think the younger ones will get that same equal opportunity IMO because we have left

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    #263278
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    Mockery? Just pointing out the point that you have loads of friends who wouldn’t vote to rejoin is hardly the point is it?

    I’m optimistic we will rejoin for the points IA makes about the young, but I don’t expect the result to be 100% yes!

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