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I wasn’t at the match so watched in on t’interweb thingy. We went down without so much as a whimper, truely dreadful.
“Go” for the love of Christ, please….
I wouldn’t keep Dean!
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Based on the last three matches, and looking at the remaining four, when do you think we’ll score the next goal?
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I hate to say this, but I feel Dean is out of his depth. I have seen nothing that leads me to believe he can actually improve the performances, in fact I would go so far as to say he is actually making things worse.
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In terms of redundancy cost, a lot will depend on how they employed the services of the academy staff.
It is common in sport for organisations to engage the services through a PSC (limited company), and give them yearly contracts through their limited company (I’ve worked that way for many years with England Athletics). If the academy staff were employed that way then there will be zero cost to the football club. If however, they are contracted employees of Scunthorpe United then undoubtedly there will be significant redundancy costs.
I’m still absorbing the intervie, and my thoughts so far as thus;
As much as it pains me to say, he is making the correct choice to shut down the academy, and downsize the staff. I feel for all who are impacted by this, but it had to be done as it threatens the very survival of the club.
The season ticket malarky makes sense to me, and I renewed mine via bank transfer last week. There is little benefit to Scunthorpe United if the bank just trickle feeds season ticket sales through on a match-by-match basis.
I agree with the club offices going part-time, however I do admit, I have reservartions about day-to-day operations being shipped out of town. A football club should be part of the community, and this goes against that!
As for players training in Ilkeston during the week. I’m not too fused about that; most of the players and playing staff are not locals to Scunthorpe so if better facilities exist elsewhere, why not use them (although I would like to know how much it will cost Scunthorpe United to access those facilities). That said, I do hope this is a short-term solution, and that DH builds something better in Scunthopre or the surrounding area. Perhaps something that could bring in extra revenue, with a gym, cafe, bar, multi-use pitches etc.
Overall I would say that I am firmly in camp 2, I will continue to support Scunthorpe United in any way I can, and will watch closely to see if DH makes good on his words. If he does, he will have my backing, if he doesn’t, I’ll round up a mob with pitch forks and chase him out of town!
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It’s worth noting that there is little between the two managers (Nelson & Dean);
Nelson’s Record : Pld 8, W2, D2, L4 Pts 8 F8 A13 GD-5
Dean’s Record (so far): Pld 11, W3, D2, L6 Pts 11 F12 A19 GD-7They both average 1 point per match (Niel Cox averaged .86).
Yeah but Cox was reeelly reeelly brave !!!
So Admiral Nelson, ok mate Dean and Calamity Cox were all shite .. but i think Hill must of taken top prize for lowest points per game ratio ??
Keith Hill – 0.46 points per match. That’s impressively poor!
It’s worth noting that there is little between the two managers (Nelson & Dean);
Nelson’s Record : Pld 8, W2, D2, L4 Pts 8 F8 A13 GD-5
Dean’s Record (so far): Pld 11, W3, D2, L6 Pts 11 F12 A19 GD-7They both average 1 point per match (Niel Cox averaged .86).
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It’ll be a tense day in SODIron Towers today; we live near York and my 11 year old daughter is a York City supporter. She is going to be sat in the home end, behind the goal supporting York, and I’ll be in the away end, cheering on the Iron.
One of us is going to be unhappy tonight!
The prices seem very fair to me, I’ll be renewing mine today.
It is sad to be saying this as a long-term supporter; barring a miracle of biblical proportions, we will be playing National League North football next season.
Arguably we do have the easiest run in of all the teams however, the points gap between us and safety means we would have to suddenly develop from a struggling team to the best team in the league overnight. Whilst there is some promising play, we are a mile away from being that sort of team.
Time to start planning the away trip to Banbury United.
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Classic Tory move; Get your Tory donor, PM loan facilitator, chair of the BBC to deflect the conversation away from the illegal, immoral, and badly designed legislation and pass the public furore onto a television pundit rather than where it truly belongs.
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The next few matches will give us a real indication of the quality if the squad, and the mananger. If we are to do the unlikely and avoid relegation we need to start picking up wins quickly, and this starts tonight at Maidstone.
The whole team put in a shift but for me, Butterfield had an absolute stormer of a match…he was everywhere!
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Last night was always gonna be a tough night; Barnet are up there for a reason, and it showed they are an organised, competent, physical team.
Whilst the result and performance was not ideal we have to be realistic, especially given the last week. Jimmy Dean has only been working with the players for a few days, and the new players have probably had one full training session. This showed last night, the team looked disjointed and Owen Foster looked nervous from the get-go.
I did like the look of Leake, I think he will do a good job for us. However, the rest of the signings looked a little ‘rusty’ for me. That said, McDonagh looks like he could be a threat, and was suprisingly nippy for a player of his size.
Overall, I came away from the ground feeling a little frustrated but optimistic. We are rapidly running out of matches and know staying up is gonna be a challenge. Will we stay up? My heart says yes, but my head says no. Am I disappointed with how things are at Scunthorpe United today? No, only two weeks ago we faced the realistic prospect of Scunthorpe United Football Club Limited being wound up by the end of March. Whereas today my biggest concern is whether we will manage to avoid the drop. I’ll take those concerns with a smile on my face!!!
The next two weeks are critical for both Scunthorpe United and Jimmy Dean. We need to strengthen a little more, and we need to come out all guns blazing when we play Dagenham & Redbridge. Get a result at our next match and I will start to feel a little more confident, however if we don’t win then relegation looks like a near certainty (if it isn’t already)!
Whatever this season brings it has been hugely successful…we have rid ourselves of the Swann dynasty and can start to rebuild.
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I see Dion Sembie-Ferris as the new Cleveland Taylor.
@Lesgeo – after the last 3 seasons this is a good problem to have!
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Wasn’t KVV a pert-time plasterer or something?
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But isn’t the club owned by Coolsilk? Would it not be all the directors/owners of Coolsilk who are liable?
If so could the HMRC use resources from elsewhere under the Coolsilk umbrella to pay for this debt?
No, Coolsilk is a seperate limited company that own the ground, carpark and training facilities. Scunthorpe United Football Club Limited are tennants (albeit rent free) of Coolsilk. They may have the same director in the board, but they are seperate legal entities and neither is liable for either’s debts / liabilities.
The actual HMRC debt was created by Scunthorpe United Football Club Limited due to non payment of tax when the tax was due, and they (Scunthorpe United Football Club Limited) are liable for the tax debt and any associated penalties etc.
Taxes owed by a limited company are different to personal tax owed, so it is not the same as Lester Piggott and Boris Becker whom I believe, were engaged in some tax evasion pratices.
The taxes owed by Scunthorpe United are likely VAT on sales, and perhaps income tax that they will have deducted from employees wages when they paid them. Depending on their setup with HMRC most organisations will pay these taxes quarterly, or yearly. Failure to pay these on time can result in penalties being added to the amount too, and this will only compound the issues.
In short, Swann and the directors are protected from this taxation debt as the debt is owed by the iimited company and not the directors.
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Yep, just registered and you can see the petition there. Not a great move, we need that sale ASAP!
Just registered, can see the petition… @olivercturner @HumbersideSport pic.twitter.com/crf7DIPsjG
— Darren Reevell (@Darren_Reevell) January 11, 2023
Some great work from Kieran Maguire – he’s really putting the spotlight on the murky dealings of our club owner. I love the fact that he shows clearly that the statement made on the website from Swann appears to contradict the court filings.
I noted that Jeff Stelling mentioned Scunthorpe United in this tweet (https://twitter.com/JeffStelling/status/1610438779084636160). Hopefully the press will start picking this up and run with the story. The more eyes on Swann the better. It may not save the club, but at least it will let the world know exactly what sort of a human being Mr Swann is!
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The “Fans Director” contributes as mush as our broken scoreboard. I cannot recall the last time he made a meaningful announcement, or even acknowledged the fans legitimate concerns. I can only assume that the club have instructed him to say nothing, and if that is indeed the case, he should resign as they are preventing him doing what he was elected to do!
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Was talking on Sunday why aren’t the trust doing something, why not have talks with Ian and let the trust have a fund to buy part of the club never to be sold, my 1000 pounds waiting.
Agree 100% – The Iron Trust should be leading this. I have £500 waiting, and will happily donate a regular £150 each month to keep the club afloat!
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December wages will likely be covered by the Nutall sale, January could be covered by a combination of player sales and gate receipts. As I see it, the wages in February is where the proverbial is likely to hit the fan. If the sale is not complete by then, I fear it may be game over.
Peter Swann – there’s something of the night about him.
The club had issues paying the wages on time last month, and it seems even worse this month.
Given the financial mess the club is in one has to ask; even *if* they get paid today, tomorrow or whenever, will the same happen next month?
Not with all these games against the division’s top clubs backing up.
A pointless December.
That matches our pointless November…
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