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    PaulSanfran49
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    Heading that way for such a decision.

    But will be difficult as no further mention of the club getting its ground back and the EFL loan outstanding ! Or is it outstanding ? we don’t know because Mr Enigma keeps that secret secret.

    And how much is it £100K, £250K, £500K, £1 million or more ? We are back in that world of ‘not telling’.

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    IronaweIronawe
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    What I do know is that Swann doesn’t owe the EFL anything – the club do – also the club have no assets beside some playing personnel – one of which has been sold, the rest worth not much. I reckon he would fold the club before paying them anything.

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    @Ironawe – sadly I think you’re correct.

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    Realistically how much do ye think someone would need to buy the club?
    And then also how much would it cost to get the club back to even just a mid table league 2 side?

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    mistertonmickmistertonmick
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    4 years ago we had a top 6 league 1 budget, now we haven’t even got a league 2 budget so I am really concerned that the club will fold after a season of non league and he will get more than his money back by making it a building site, and if there isn’t a club I can’t see that the ground can only be used for football will apply, its baffling that we brought Keith Hill in though.

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    Iron-aweIron-awe
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    4 years ago we had a top 6 league 1 budget, now we haven’t even got a league 2 budget so I am really concerned that the club will fold after a season of non league and he will get more than his money back by making it a building site, and if there isn’t a club I can’t see that the ground can only be used for football will apply, its baffling that we brought Keith Hill in though.

    To make it look like he was doing his best maybe? If no decent arrivals join us who may give us a fighting chance of avoiding the drop within a fortnight, we will know it was all a deception. Lofts transfer fee will more then cover Hills short time here.

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    Even if we survive this season do you realistically expect things to change for the better next season? I don’t…As Turkish said “The rabbit gets f*cked” – Scunthorpe United is the rabbit, and Swann is the reaching for the lube.

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    I’m as frustrated as anyone at the lack of incoming personnel but historically most of the action is often towards the end of the month (although I think that may be too late for us) but unfortunately due to this its premature to comment on the chairman’s aspirations until the end of the window before then it is just speculation. I do think though that if there are no incomings then this may well give an indication to the future.

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    Mr Swann is the club. He has to sanction the repayment.

    Recruitment – Wonder Will is involved as confirmed in one of Simon’s tweet answers. So not good.

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    It’s already too late if he sold up today.
    We are going down and who wants a non league club? If he’d put us up at the beginning of the season…?

    He’s totally devalued the club, but that doesn’t matter now he has the ground and land.

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    You really are thick as….

    Do you honestly believe he’s gone to the trouble over the last 9 years of paying £11million for a piece of land in Scunthorpe? The land is probably worth half that and if he wanted some land I’m sure Scunthorpe wouldn’t be top of his list.

    Now I know why I didn’t post for months, it makes your eyes bleed the shite on here.

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    So you don’t like Scunthorpe then

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    Now I know why I didn’t post for months, it makes your eyes bleed the shite on here.

    No, you didn’t post for months because you were asked “awkward” questions which you were unable to answer without weakening your position.

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    Point proven.

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    Yes I know I have but thanks for admitting it.

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    No uptheiron99 Swann didn’t think 9 years ago I will go and buy a piece of land in Scunthorpe for 11 million, but what he knew and made sure of was that him and his family could take the club land and assets to ensure that they wouldn’t lose financially. In fact they could gain if our Club is wound up and goes into administration, the EFL will want the loan repaid at some point. What is happening now is all down to SWANNS hairbrained schemes and his unforgiveable overspending of our clubs money. Our supporters should really be letting him now exactly how they feel about him and his family because of where they have taken our Club, and not showing any willingness to put things right.

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    You really are thick as….

    Do you honestly believe he’s gone to the trouble over the last 9 years of paying £11million for a piece of land in Scunthorpe? The land is probably worth half that and if he wanted some land I’m sure Scunthorpe wouldn’t be top of his list.

    Now I know why I didn’t post for months, it makes your eyes bleed the shite on here.

    OK then smart arse, if we are all wrong then what are his motives for buying a football club and then running it into the ground and the verge of oblivion???

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    To be successful and get us promotion to the championship Pat, unfortunately he didn’t succeed, so let everyone beat him up for trying.

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    Oblivion? As I said on another post football does exist outside the PL & EFL, the National League has clubs arguably bigger than 20 current league 2 teams.

    Nobody wants to get relegated but you are such drama queens.

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    To be successful and get us promotion to the championship Pat, unfortunately he didn’t succeed, so let everyone beat him up for trying.

    Do you think that was a good plan?

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    Wasn’t that Whartons plan? Didn’t he succeed and still keep the club going? Even when he ran it as a hobby? No chairman ever took us from league to non-league football until this guy turned up.

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    Whether people agree or disagree with UTI he has every right to offer his view without others slanging him off. Like UTI, I rarely post on here because of the abuse that comes whenever anyone holds a view that doesn’t meet with general approval. Is there any wonder, therefore, that UTI himself fights back.

    It’s also worth saying that UTI is making a very valid point. As he points out, it’s highly unlikely that the land is worth anything like the amount that Swann has put into the club.

    I’m bitterly disappointed by how Swann’s let things slide and feel very let down as a result of this. However, it’s absurd to suggest he’s somehow happy about what’s happened or the outcome. What’s more, we haven’t been relegated yet. Plenty of clubs have been through incredibly tough times and fought back. There’s no reason we can’t do the same.

    While far from optimistic I’m not giving up on the club and still hope that Swann can turn things round. I can’t help feeling that while there are some on here who might say the same thing, in reality they wouldn’t be too upset if we were to go down because it would “prove them right”.

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    Bucks – we’ve got rid of out two top scorers and lost out on all the targets (remember when Swann said he would not sell until a replacement was lined up – that truth lasted 48 hours – not bad for him actually). We’re not down yet but the fat lady is certainly warming up the tonsils.

    Most believe, as do I, that the club won’t last in non-league – not with Swann as owner. And this narrative has been pedalled by Swann – just listen to his last 5/6 media ‘chats’. There is probably a very very small minority of fans who want us to go down because it may mean us starting from Northern counties league.

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    All fair points, IA, and I completely agree it’s looking very bad indeed. To say that I’m totally and utterly deflated by what’s happened under Swann would be an understatement.

    At the same time we must never give up hope. Hill’s a good manager and if anyone can keep us up then I believe it’s him. Yes, we need more players in key positions but let’s just see what transpires.

    Unless and until the fat lady sings I’m going to keep believing.

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    Good post Bucks until the last paragraph.

    Whilst there are one or two that frequent this forum that are very quick to point out “I told you so” that should not be confused with wanting the team to disappear from the EFL.

    Even UTI99 does not really want that despite his claims that it is no big deal.

    By the way if you asked fans of long established League clubs if losing League status is a big deal then I suspect more than 99% of them would say it is a very big deal.

    The raw emotion that we are seeing on the site these days is driven by fear of losing our League status. In manifests itself as anti the chairman simply because he is the only person in a position to influence the outcome.

    A position of total control and responsibility that he himself sought, achieved and then revelled in. He has 2 weeks to take the actions (or not) that will determine the clubs immediate and possibly long term future.

    Bear in mind Peter it will cost a few quid to stay in the League but will cost an awful lot more to get back there. Come on and prove the majority of us wrong here. I won’t even mind you saying “I told you so”.

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    Whether people agree or disagree with UTI he has every right to offer his view without others slanging him off. Like UTI, I rarely post on here because of the abuse that comes whenever anyone holds a view that doesn’t meet with general approval. Is there any wonder, therefore, that UTI himself fights back.

    No quarrel with anybody posting contrary views Bucks, as for the rest, to save you going back through this thread I reproduce below the start of UTI99’s initial contribution to a thread on which he has not previously been mentioned.

    “You really are thick as….”

    Fighting back or initial agression? Unnecessary either way.

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    Yes it was a good plan ferrite, enjoyed the three years where we gave it a good go to get promoted, not enjoying it very much at the moment but that’s football. Can’t imagine any owner who is not pilloried with the prospect of losing lge status,and lots achieve it as well, most owners don’t survive afterwards, must admit it’s hard to be optimistic at the moment but I will try to be.

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    Oblivion? As I said on another post football does exist outside the PL & EFL, the National League has clubs arguably bigger than 20 current league 2 teams.

    Nobody wants to get relegated but you are such drama queens.

    I think very few of the twenty ‘smaller’ league teams would swap league status with these ‘bigger’ clubs. In fact I’m of the opinion the figure is zero.

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    I know a number of fans of clubs currently in the NL or NL(N).

    My cousin in a Codhead and I have good mates who follow the likes of Chester, Chesterfield and Notts County.

    Not one, when their team was teetering on the brink like we are, shrugged it off and said “hey-ho, relegation happens!”

    Not a bit of it. They ranted and raved, blamed players and managers, refs and linesmen, but mostly owners.

    They didn’t accept relegation out of the Football League with quiet dignity. They were dragged down kicking and screaming.

    All are still mightily pissed off about it!

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    Relegation will be a real shitter …its folding completely and not existing at all that worries me.

    Is it me or ?? it comes across as really theres little fight going on from the boardroom to actually stay in the EFL… slightly more on the pitch since Hill arrived but zilch from the owners.

    agree with previous post loyal fans have the duty and right to kick off when their club is in a mess and relegation is looming.

    selling the club ??? whose gonna buy it and wahts it worth bearing in mind who owns the clubs assets.

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