Start the boats

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Now that Israel,chosen rogue state of puppet racists,has decided to light up the middle east I do hope those displaced tax evaders from Dubai stop ofg at the nearest safe country

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That will be the Iranian regime that has fermented terrorism and war for decades, have recently slaughtered thousands of thousands of Iranians for protesting, with allegations of extreme torture (including gang rape of women, who had their uteruses ripped out and their dead bodies mailed to family members), hanging of gay people from cranes and women imprisoned for clothing.

Does this mean I think the current military action is wise? No. We don’t know how this will spiral, Trump is an idiot and neither he or Netanyahu are motivated by human rights. There are celebrations within Iran and the diaspora for a reason and not because they are ‘racists’. The death of the Ayatollah, who is worse than Trump and Netanyahu (no, that is no more of an endorsement than saying Stalin was better than Hitler), opens an opportunity, perhaps slim, of improvement and I cannot begrudge anyone for cheering his demise. It’s not racist for do so either, unless it’s racist to not want to live under Islamist fascism.

I have had the fortune of knowing several Iranians in my life. All despised the regime and will show some degree of happiness now, none of them ‘fascist’, they support women and gay rights, and I hope for them something good happens for their country. It would be good for the world too, with their warmongering proxies cut off from their main backer.

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I thought it was illegal to bomb a country and dispose of it’s leader, no matter how abbhorent, without provacation? Surely this is the more worrying aspect? Imagine if Iran had bombed America and killed Trump. All hell would break loose. But seemingly it’s tolerated for Trump to act like a moronic John Wayne.

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Iran have been launching attacks by its known proxies for years and have been supporting cyber and in real life terrorism, as stated by British intelligence about many foiled plots against us. They aren’t at all innocent in stirring conflict and are a key, if not the most major factor, in whipping up war in Palestine, Lebanon and Yemen. Never mind their own involvement in Syria and support of Russia in Ukraine (a big reason why Ukraine came out to back the operation yesterday).

The status quote has allowed Iran to cause tensions and they will continue to do so unless challenged in some way, because they have their own motivations and aren’t merely responding to the west. If this can somehow make Iran change, we have the chance for less tension in the Middle East, fewer warmongering Islamist groups fermenting tension in Lebanon or Palestine against Israel or in Yemen against Saudi Arabia. I am not saying it will lead to utopia, as I acknowledge that Israel and Saudi Arabia have their own regime problems, but it will be better if so.

Though, I do share grave worries that the optimistic scenario doesn’t always take place, and with the people involved, the chances of true change are less likely. Trump did just remove Maduro in Venezuela and left the regime to oppress its citizens, after all.

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This has shades of the debacle that was Iraq, the yanks rushed in, deposed a tyrannical leader who was eventually executed and departed with no exit strategy in place for the region. Trump is doing exactly the same, he hasn’t a clue what is going to happy next and his failing old brain won’t even care, it will be about brownie points leading up to the mid terms but it will not wash with the majority of the American public.

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Small matter of Epstein files deflection? Netanyahu currying favour with dissatisfied Israelis?

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Hope the tax avoiding refugees are getting the consideration of others

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No doubt you’ll ” understand” when Iran starts a genocide.
Nice of Keith to put us in the line of fire ,

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64 wrote:

No doubt you’ll ” understand” when Iran starts a genocide.
Nice of Keith to put us in the line of fire ,

Lol at the idea that Iran are just innocents who weren’t warmongering and engaging in genocidal actions before.

“Understanding genocide” are for those who want to chant “globalise the intifada” or said “Oct 7th was justified”.

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Michael Rosen:

‘Trump says, I can’t allow Israel to have nuclear weapons, very bad. Israel bad. People in West bank…crying out for freedom. You little people can’t get rid of the bad people. We’ll do that. We told them what to do. The bad people, the very bad people didn’t listen. They bomb places. Keep trying to grab land. Very bad. And bad. So we’re going to do a lot of damage. Big damage. Let’s see what happens. People are going to die. That’s war. I don’t die. I’ll never die. Bad people die. I’m not bad. No point in asking me questions, you. You’re ugly and stupid. I bring peace. Lovely peace. Nobel peace. Lovely Nobel. He was called Nobel because he was noble. You didn’t know that, did you? Everything that’s come out of the Epstein files says that it was the Democrats. Case closed. Bomb doors open. Watch out Israel, we’re gonna nuke the nukes.

President, sir. I think you’ve got the names of the countries muddled.

I did? I did? When? How? Melania? Nurse? Doctor? Where am I? li…’

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A good piece…

https://www.thenerve.news/p/stewart-lee-column-reform-lbc-charlie-mullins-ai-education-university-farage

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I did get a wry smile out of the USA begging Ukraine for help with equipment to defend against shaheds after a year of bemoaning about they had to help Ukraine, while pandering to every Russian demand in their ‘peace attempts’.

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https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/2029741548791853331 WTF is this?

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That Pete Hegseth is a piece of work as “Minister Of War “, ex Fox News presenter and a totally inappropriate choice to be anywhere near the Pentagon. He actually is smirking the whole time he is pointing out the devastation caused by the superior USA forces, he appears to be revelling in the death and destruction being wreaked on the Iranian people, complete bellend.

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Parading around like ‘Commanders’ from Handmaid’s Tale. Saw a pic of them praying with the Donald earlier. Good god! I’ve stronger words for Hegseth, Trump and Vance. The main one begins with C

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Iron-awe wrote:

That Pete Hegseth is a piece of work as “Minister Of War “, ex Fox News presenter and a totally inappropriate choice to be anywhere near the Pentagon. He actually is smirking the whole time he is pointing out the devastation caused by the superior USA forces, he appears to be revelling in the death and destruction being wreaked on the Iranian people, complete bellend.

Is there anyone in the Trump administration who is fit for purpose? I am just surprised Tulsi Gabbard isn’t having aneurisms given her past shilling for Iran. The White House social media account treating this like a game is unprofessional and appalling.

I may have a different perspective to some on here, and probably would be less likely to oppose some kind of action if it meant protecting Iranians from their disgusting regime and in response to Iran’s terror plots in the Middle East and the west (British secret services have spoken of such attempts being foiled and we should be strong against that). However, this recent action has only shown how poorly thought out it is. I have gone from being in a position of not knowing what was the right decision to settling on being against it more fully. They seem surprised it could even lead to increased oil prices, but apparently it was ‘Trump Derangement Syndrome’ to think this chaotic clown is a doofus who hasn’t got a clue what he is doing.

At least he doesn’t have a cackle like Harris though and hasn’t risked getting the USA into forever wars. Oh, wait…

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Government by 4chan adolescents https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/2030051395294941427

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‘I may have a different perspective to some on here, and probably would be less likely to oppose some kind of action if it meant protecting Iranians from their disgusting regime and in response to Iran’s terror plots in the Middle East and the west (British secret services have spoken of such attempts being foiled and we should be strong against that). However, this recent action has only shown how poorly thought out it is.’

I think that’s a view shared by many in the UK (if ‘some kind of action’ doesn’t involve bombing countries like a video game) if the recent opinion polls are to be believed and anecdotal evidence from overheard public conversations, Question Time and such. I know you think international law is toothless, and to some extent it is, but this underlines it’s importance to me. Of course, wannabe gangster Trump is going to flout it but it’s ironic that he’s actually more hawkish than previous Democrat governments that were accused of it, particularly Biden. Trump thinks decades of attempted problem solving over Iran can be fixed by obliterating with bombs. He’s a deluded spoilt moron way out of his grubby dealing depth, surrounded by nasty sychopants and weirdos.

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I was speaking to an Egyptian the other day and he was saying he supports the US and Israeli action, saying it should have come sooner. I politely expressed my doubts, but he said it’s a terror state that is causing trouble everywhere else, so it does highlight why there is a growing unity against Iran in the region. It is Iran that is becoming the pariah state and it’s because people know what it has been trying to do in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine and Yemen.

One thing that has baffled me is a ‘Starmer derangement syndrome’ that has plagued the press. I have seen headlines calling him out for not joining in with the USA and Israel. It seems so out of touch with the majority public opinion, which is not in favour of joining the war. Starmer has done a poor job so far, but it is really hard when the press go after him for anything.

[Iron-awe]

Starmer can’t do wrong for doing right TBF to him, keeping us out of this illegal action apart from defending our people and bases is fine by me, just because Trump says jump doesn’t mean we have to every single time. Trump says he does everything to put the USA first , I reckon Starmer has taken a leaf out his book on this occasion by putting the UKs interests first. As for Badenoch ( actually a great name for a right wing Tory ) saying Reeves’s should have knocked 5p a litre of petrol and derv at the last budget, yeah brilliant as if we can’t pay our way as a country enough as it is already. Will be surprised is she’s Tory leader come the next election, mind you many more defections and there won’t be a Tory party soon.

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Now Trump’s pulling back due to Iran’s successful hit on oil prices, what’s he going to do next week to deflect from the Epstein files?

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Won’t bombing the middle east create more refugees for the Farage following idiots to point and shout at ?
Anyone would think these simple minded numpties might join the dots?
No wonder Farage wants the bombing to continue,it creates his voice

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https://x.com/Acyn/status/2031128858309833083

Next Trump move is to bomb the armless, legless zombies walking around to prevent them from eating our brains.

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Just one of many gaffs and moronic utterances from him that I heard live last night. What a clown.

Think I’ve heard him say ‘all of their ships are sunk, they’re all at the bottom of the sea’ about 10 times recently. It’s like his nurse sings it to him before bed.

[Iron-awe]

Yes all their ships are sunk but they sunk another the other day, must have missed that one first time around. The guy is mentally ill and showing increased signs of dementia, the 25th should be invoked and remove him as president, he needs medical treatment not the reins of power.

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He said they had to bomb Iran before they nuked the USA even though he claims they prevented them building them during the last round. Serial liar like all the biggest grifters

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