Project Footballer. Non league reality

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    TheJuryeffsOutTheJuryeffsOut
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    Interesting interview with Barrows, Ogle and Smith.

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    #278643
    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
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    I watched 12 minutes of it.

    17.2% of players in National League North aren’t English.

    They come from 35 different countries.

    23.5% of players in the National League aren’t English.
    They come from 53 different countries.

    L2 = 30.2% none English.

    L1 = 38.6% none English.

    Championship = 51.2% none English.

    Premier = 68.4% none English.

    Don’t waste your time, money or effort with football.

    If you want them to become a sport man concentrate on the solo events where they don’t have to rely on team mates.

    Darts, Snooker, Golf, Tennis, Athletics, Cycling, Boxing, Swimming etc

    They’d probably have the longest careers playing golf.

    As parents, you’ll waste a small fortune ferrying little Johnny here, there and everywhere… with maybe a 0.1% chance that he’ll have a career out of the game.

    The odds on your lad being a Beckham are probably 0.001% – of being a Messi or Ronaldo probably 0.0001%

    The percentage of English players in the game will continue to decline.

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    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
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    I watched 12 minutes of it.

    17.2% of players in National League North aren’t English.

    They come from 35 different countries.

    23.5% of players in the National League aren’t English.
    They come from 53 different countries.

    L2 = 30.2% none English.

    L1 = 38.6% none English.

    Championship = 51.2% none English.

    Premier = 68.4% none English.

    Don’t waste your time, money or effort with football.

    If you want them to become a sport man concentrate on the solo events where they don’t have to rely on team mates.

    Darts, Snooker, Golf, Tennis, Athletics, Cycling, Boxing, Swimming etc

    They’d probably have the longest careers playing golf.

    As parents, you’ll waste a small fortune ferrying little Johnny here, there and everywhere.

    The odds on your lad being a Beckham are probably 0.000001% (1 in a million)
    Of being a Messi or Ronaldo probably 0.0000001%

    The percentage of English players in the game will continue to decline.

    First post didn’t contain enough zeroes!

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    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    “As parents, you’ll waste a small fortune ferrying little Johnny here, there and everywhere.

    The odds on your lad being a Beckham are probably 0.000001% (1 in a million)
    Of being a Messi or Ronaldo probably 0.0000001%”

    So what!

    Perhaps they enjoy it and get something out of it apart from money. You know, like physical fitness, friendships and performing as part of a team.

    Not everyone who joins a band sells a million records. Not everyone who treads the boards ends up as the next Ken Brannagh.

    Not all about chasing the filthy lucre.

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    #278650
    IronaweIronawe
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    Bloody foreigners coming over here and enriching our game.

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    TheJuryeffsOutTheJuryeffsOut
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    12 minutes Rene ? You young generation with your short attention spans !
    They do go on to talk about their own personal journeys. Whitehall gets a mention when they talk about the dark arts of pro football.

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    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
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    “As parents, you’ll waste a small fortune ferrying little Johnny here, there and everywhere.”

    #%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#>#%#%

    So what!

    Perhaps they enjoy it and get something out of it apart from money. You know, like physical fitness, friendships and performing as part of a team.

    Would you want your 8 / 9 year old son travelling for up to 2 hours to a game where they may only actually play for 30 minutes?
    Then, a 2 hour return trip.

    Travelling for 8 times longer than they are playing.
    Makes no sense!

    If they really want to play football, then let them play in the local leagues – far less pressure and lots more fun.

    The title of the thread is: “Project Footballer” – I made my comments relating to the ‘success’ rate of players coming through the Academies.

    You are much more likely to experience success at:
    Project Darts
    Project Snooker
    Project Tennis
    Project Athletics
    Project Boxing
    etc
    I’m sure the lads would make friends and develop social skills etc. Most of those events will keep them fit too.

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    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
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    The “Thanks Premier League Thread”

    Is there any point of lower league (L1 & below) clubs operating academies?

    Thanks Premier league

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    GurnelistaGurnelista
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    Rene, of course some kids prefer solo sports like athletics, tennis, kayaking etc. but most prefer team sports where they can join in and have fund with their friends. At such a young age few are thinking about it in terms of a career and long-term success, so even if it means a 2hr trip for 30 mins it’s not just about the football, it’s a day out in the car, going somewhere new with dad/friends, and having laughs, fun, fish n chips…
    Just ask any dad of 6-12 year old lads (and increasingly lasses), many of whom dedicate hours and £££ to this sort of thing, weekends and midweek.
    If you haven’t yet been through it, maybe your time will come…

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    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
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    My time came & went with kids 30 years ago – grandkids are now quite proficient in elite boxing and elite rugby.

    If the youngest grandkids want to play football then they can play with their mates in local leagues; 20 minutes max to an away game, afternoon in Cleggy for fish & chips and amusements with team mates.

    If they were any good then the big boys would still want them.
    Also, if you start at the bottom, there’s nowhere to “fall” to.

    By this, I mean if you are good enough for a Man Utd, a Newcastle, a Liverpool – there are plenty of other branches (clubs) to hit on the way down.

    Start at a Grimsby, a Donny or a Morecambe etc and you hit the ground when released.

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    NorthumbironNorthumbiron
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    “Would you want your 8 / 9 year old son travelling for up to 2 hours to a game where they may only actually play for 30 minutes?
    Then, a 2 hour return trip.”

    Pretty much did that for my lad 25 years ago.

    90 minutes journey from here to Berwick when he played in the Colts League.

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