Oh DEar Mr Cox! Part 2

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    cassidystashcassidystash
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    So more deluded drivel in this weeks post match interview.
    “We set our stall out and went with three in midfield to match them up”
    So still worrying about the opposition rather than letting them worry about us then.
    “They have a record of scoring early goals, and I thought if we stayed in the game in the first 20 minutes, we’d be fine and we’d see the first half out which we did.” and “Discussing the second-half performance he said I said if we can defend for 20-25 minutes”
    So that’s 70 minutes with no intention of attacking.
    ” I thought we nullified them quite well”
    Thelimit of our ambition?
    “We passed it well for the last 20 minutes and got into some good areas”
    We didn’t have any shots though did we?
    “That’s what we lost the game by tonight, by set-plays and the ball in the box.”
    This weeks excuse – injuries.
    Let me be clear, I think we need some stability, I’m not saying Cox out – I just wish he’d LEARN SOMETHING and stop making the same mistakes week after week.

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    #204312
    IRONINTHEBLOODIRONINTHEBLOOD
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    Good post CT,Cox is as deluded as our chairman,full of shit /excuses.
    Plays boring non attacking football ,chops and changes formation and team weekly and more importantly has learned Nowt.

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    #204319
    PaulSanfran49
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    Well put CT.

    The same pool of players ! The same ones who fail time and again. Our new pro’s from the academy must wonder what they have done. They don’t have a chance, we recruit others failures and ignore our own.

    He says we don’t have a CB – we do, he is called Charlie Barks problem is he may be the answer and the Manager won’t like being proved wrong. Look what happened when 442 started to yield points back to anything but.

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    #204323
    SODIronSODIron
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    I’m going out on a limb here and actually defending Cox.

    Sure I am certain that he’s made a few tactical errors, and his squad selection at times leaves me bemused. That is to be expected with an inexperienced manager, regardless of what level they’re plying their trade at.

    For me the issue is with the squad as a whole. It lacks cohesion and it is clear to me that whomever put together this team doesn’t really understand the importance of having several experienced players and an on field leader.

    With regards to Cox being in charge. Let’s be honest, over the last few seasons we’ve struggled with managerial appointments. Our chairman’s attempt to become a Poundland Roman Abramovich by sacking manager after manager hasn’t really lead to lasting success. With the limited funds available for new players, our current league status, and our chairman’s reputation for sacking managers, I cannot see that we’d have a long list of suitors lined up to take over the reigns from Cox.

    For now despite his inexperience and mistakes, I would rather we stood by Cox and what little funds we have in the club are invested into getting a on field leader through the door and not paying off managerial contracts.

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    #204324
    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    ‘Poundland Roman Abramovich’ 😂😂

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    #204347
    IRONINTHEBLOODIRONINTHEBLOOD
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    Good post CT,Cox is negative and full of excuses.
    Plays boring non attacking football ,chops and changes formation and team weekly and more importantly has learned Nowt.

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    Thought first post had not gone through,sorry for repeat post.

    #204353
    WonderGoalsWonderGoals
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    I don’t think you can really class what Cox has been doing as “mistakes”. Cox has put thought into it and chooses to take that approach.

    I will put that down to a negative mindset rather than making mistakes. I fear this is what Cox is like. It appears to me that he’s just a negative manager who’s completely gone into his shell.

    I honestly don’t understand why he’s not going back to 4/4/2. Loft is struggling so playing him upfront on his own is no good to anybody.

    Nothing to lose yesterday, what did he do ?. Took a striker of for a striker instead of putting one beside Loft. Again, that’s not a mistake…that’s a negative mindset.

    I don’t think fresh players next season will solve it either. I suspect the problem mostly is with Cox.

    You can have the worlds best musicians making up the most impressive orchestra the world has ever seen but if the conductor is utter crap, what would you ever really get out of them ?

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    #204354
    cassidystashcassidystash
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    It’s a mistake, a big mistake, if you keep doing the same thing, watching it fail and then repeatedly doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome. There’s a famous quote expressing this but I’m not bright enough to know who it was that said it. Playing Loft up front alone is a mistake, we all know that but he keeps doing it.

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    #204357
    WonderGoalsWonderGoals
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    All the more strange when he showed real promise when playing upfront with Eisa who was there to link up with him and offer support.

    Loft has played his best football when having a partner up there but as you say cassidy, he keeps playing him upfront where he’s got no support or service.

    All well and good playing like this if we had Torpey in his pomp to hold the ball up and smash people around to enable players to get up and support him but he’s nowhere near that kind of player and may never be.

    Loft has glaring holes in his game so he needs support and a bit of help.

    Why can’t Cox see this ?

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    CT, the quote was attributed to Einstein, –
    “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results”

    About sums Cox up.

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    “Loft has glaring holes in his game so he needs support and a bit of help.

    Why can’t Cox see this ?”

    If he can’t see it he must be blind. Loft is 23, had 3 years at Spurs and 2 years at Leicester, but he can’t control or pass the ball. If Loft isn’t 3rd or 4th choice striker next year I can’t see how we can improve.

    Cox needs to play 2 up front. I would prefer to see Olomola and McAtee in the next match. Something has to change.

    The other problem with playing Loft is that the defenders take the easy way our and keep aimlessly hoofing it up in the air. Not Loft’s fault and I do agree that he plays better when the ball is played to his feet.

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    #204365
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    It’s happened before as he plays Loft up front with no support and we get 2-0 down against Carlisle takes Loft off to be replaced by Fela.Why can’t he play both together,I find this without any common sense

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    WonderGoalsWonderGoals
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    I don’t know. I wondered the same thing above. I can’t make any sense of it whatsoever. Nothing to lose with 2-0 down and looking out of sorts anyway, so what harm would it have done ?

    I really didn’t, and still don’t understand that decision at all.

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    Not many managers would be brave enough to sub off your top goalscorer at 2-0 down would they? 2-0 down, half an hour left and we never had another shot at goal. Unbelievable Jeff!

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    Cox needs to play 2 up front. I would prefer to see Olomola and McAtee in the next match. Something has to change.

    Good call.

    But if he does that and we don’t win he’ll be lambasted for changing the lineup.

    He’s created a no-win situation for himself!

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    The last few matches have been a no win, no goals, virtually no shots situation@

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    CT, the quote was attributed to Einstein, –
    “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results”

    About sums Cox up.

    I think Thomas Edison’s quote might be apt here also. When accused of not making many discoveries, he contered – ‘On the contrary, I have discovered HUNDREDS of things that don’t work’.

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    Absolute, it’s just Cox doesn’t seem to realise things aren’t working.

    He does have a tough job but really isn’t helping himself.

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    There is every chance that we are going to have a weaker squad next season.
    Whether or not this is the case, the club must improve on keeping players fit and also the manager must show that he has learned more than a bit from this season’s fan-irritating, negative performances.

    If Neil shows the same tactical traits next season two things will happen:
    1) Fans will vote with their feet and gates will drop to levels not seen since the 70s – 1,500 home fans.
    2) Calls for Neil’s head on a spike will begin in earnest from no later than October.
    I have tried my level best to give him total support but that will only be granted next season if I am entertained.

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    It strikes me that Cox does not think his team is good enough to go toe to toe in a footballing contest even with the average and below average teams in the league.

    Without McGahey, Onariase, Taft and Van Veen he is probably right.

    One of his biggest problems is the lack of a forward to play up front with Loft. Turan has been tried briefly and failed followed by a mysterious disappearance. Jarvis has been tried and failed followed by a long term sick note. Mooney appatently does not even warrant a try.

    Much as Kev is a favourite of many he is not an out and out striker. Most of his good work happens outside the box. How many times have we see him go past the centre forward into space we could count the number of times on the fingers of one hand.

    Eisa has been played there but let’s face it he is a one trick winger at best. Green is the same as Eisa except he runs faster and gives the ball away a bit quicker.

    In Leagues 1 & 2 you rarely win anything without a decent pair of front men. Loft could be one of them but it’s hard to judge as we have never seen him play with anyone fit for the role.

    Never had a decent front pairing since Hooper and Hayes. Much easier to set up to attack teams that are worried about your front 2. In the last few years our front two wouldn’t worry sheep.

    In summary I don’t like how Cox sets his teams up to play but I think I understand why he does it.

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    I understand Olomola may not be his type of player but to put a struggling, somewhat inexperienced striker who’s badly in need of support and service up front, isolated is plain stupid.

    Stick Olomola next to him, play McAtee up there. Even bring Jessop off the bench and give him a go.

    Better playing either of those beside/near him rather than sticking him isolated upfront, it just doesn’t work.

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