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    1986-87 The first season of automatic relegation from Division Four and automatic promotion from the newly sponsored Vauxhall Conference.

    Division Four

    1986-87 Lincoln City FS 1st (P)
    1987-88 Newport County FS Folded, Expelled & Expunged
    1988-89 Darlington FS 1st (P)
    1989-90 Colchester United FS 2nd

    Football League Third Division

    1992-93 Halifax Town FS 13th

    1996-97 Hereford United FS 6th
    1997-98 Doncaster Rovers FS 16th
    1998-99 Scarborough FS 4th
    1999-00 Chester City FS 8th
    2000-01 Barnet FS 5th
    2001-02 Halifax Town FS 8th

    2002-03 Exeter City FS 6th
    2002-03 Shrewsbury Town FS 3rd

    2003-04 Carlisle United FS 3rd (P)
    2003-04 York City FS 17th

    Football League Two
    2004–05 Kidderminster Harriers FS 15th
    2004-05 Cambridge United FS 12th

    2005–06 Oxford United FS 2nd
    2005-06 Rushden & Diamonds FS 12th

    2006–07 Boston United FS Relegated direct to Conference North
    2006-07 Torquay United FS 3rd

    2007–08 Mansfield Town FS 12th
    2007-08 Wrexham FS 10th

    2008–09 Chester City FS Folded & Expelled February 2010
    2008-09 Luton Town FS 2nd

    2009–10 Darlington FS 7th
    2009-10 Grimsby Town FS 11th

    2010–11 Lincoln City FS 17th
    2010-11 Stockport County FS 16th

    2011–12 Macclesfield Town FS 11th
    2011-12 Hereford United FS 6th

    2012–13 Aldershot Town FS 19th
    2012-13 Barnet FS 8th

    2013–14 Bristol Rovers FS 2nd (P)
    2013-14 Torquay United FS 13th

    2014–15 Cheltenham Town FS 1st (P)
    2014-15 Tranmere Rovers FS 6th

    2015–16 York City FS 21st
    2015-16 Dagenham & Redbridge FS 4th

    2016–17 Hartlepool United FS 15th
    2016-17 Leyton Orient FS 13th

    2017–18 Barnet FS 13th
    2017-18 Chesterfield FS 15th

    2018–19 Notts County FS 3rd
    2018-19 Yeovil Town FS 4th

    2019–20 Macclesfield Town FS Wound Up & Ejected.

    2020–21 Southend United
    2020-21 Grimsby Town

    Only FIVE clubs have bounced back to the EFL in their first season.

    The average place of a freshly relegated EFL club is 12th.

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    Sounds about right. 12th place is mid table consolidation.

    How many achieve promotion in their 2nd/3rd season?

    Of those clubs who have gone out and returned (eg Luton), what’s the average number of seasons spent in non-league?

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    Of those clubs who have gone out and returned (eg Luton), what’s the average number of seasons spent in non-league?

    Number of seasons out of the Football League:

    Lincoln City 1
    Newport County 25
    Darlington 1
    Colchester United 2
    Aldershot 16 (Expelled December 1991 and wound up March 1992)
    Maidstone United 30 (Resigned 17.8.92 and wound up.)
    Halifax Town 5
    Hereford United 9
    Doncaster Rovers 5
    Scarborough 23 (Wound up 20.6.07)
    Chester City 4
    Barnet 4
    Halifax Town 20
    Exeter City 5
    Shrewsbury Town 1
    York City 8
    Carlisle United 1
    Kidderminster Harriers 17
    Cambridge United 9
    Oxford United 4
    Rushden and Diamonds 16 (Expelled from Conference 11.6.11 and wound up.)
    Boston United 15
    Torquay United 2
    Mansfield Town 5
    Wrexham 14
    Chester City 13
    Luton Town 5
    Darlington 12
    Grimsby Town 6
    Stockport County 11
    Lincoln City 6
    Macclesfield Town 6
    Hereford United 10
    Barnet 2
    Aldershot Town 9
    Bristol Rovers 1
    Torquay United 8
    Cheltenham Town 1
    Tranmere Rovers 3
    Dagenham & Redbridge 6
    York City 6
    Hartlepool United 4
    Leyton Orient 2
    Chesterfield 4
    Barnet 4
    Yeovil Town 3
    Notts County 3
    Macclesfield Town 2 (Wound up 16.9.20)
    Bury 2 (Expelled from League 1 27.8.19 + wound up)
    Southend 1
    Grimsby 1

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    1986-87 The first season of automatic relegation from Division Four and automatic promotion from the newly sponsored Vauxhall Conference.

    The Relegated Clubs:

    1986-87 Lincoln City: 1 season – champions

    1987-88 Newport County: Folded, Expelled & Expunged. Phoenix club Newport County AFC formed. 25 years to return to the EFL

    1988-89 Darlington: 1 season – champions

    1989-90 Colchester United: 2 seasons – champions

    1992-93 Halifax Town: 5 seasons – champions

    PO = Play Off Winners

    1996-97 Hereford United: 9 seasons – PO

    1997-98 Doncaster Rovers: 5 seasons – PO

    1998-99 Scarborough: 21 seasons (play in NPL Prem) – wound up in 2007 and placed in Conf North. Phoenix Club, Scarborough Ahletic FC formed 2007

    1999-00 Chester City: 4 seasons – champions

    2000-01 Barnet: 4 seasons – champions

    2001-02 Halifax Town: 19 seasons (play in NL). Dissolved in 2008. Phoenix Club, FC Halifax Town formed 2008 and started life in NPL Div One.

    2002-03 Exeter City: 5 seasons – PO

    2002-03 Shrewsbury Town: 1 season – PO

    2003-04 Carlisle United: 1 season – PO

    2003-04 York City: 8 seasons – PO

    2004–05 Kidderminster Harriers: 15 seasons (play in NLN)

    2004-05 Cambridge United: 9 seasons – PO

    2005–06 Oxford United: 4 seasons – PO

    2005-06 Rushden & Diamonds: 10 seasons (play in Southern League Premier Central). Dissolved in 2011. Phoenix Club AFC Rushden & Diamonds formed 2011.

    2006–07 Boston United: 14 seasons (play in NLN)

    2006-07 Torquay United: 2 seasons – PO

    2007–08 Mansfield Town: 5 seasons – champions

    2007-08 Wrexham: 13 seasons (play in NL)

    2008–09 Chester City: 11 seasons (play in NLN) – Folded & Expelled February 2010. Phoenix Club, Chester FC formed in 2010

    2008-09 Luton Town: 5 seasons – champions

    2009–10 Darlington: 11 seasons (play in NLN) – Administration (again) in 2011-12 and a new name, Darlington 1883 emerged and placed in the Northern League

    2009-10 Grimsby Town: 6 seasons – PO

    2010–11 Lincoln City: 6 seasons – champions

    2010-11 Stockport County: 10 seasons (play in NL)

    2011–12 Macclesfield Town: 6 seasons – champions

    2011-12 Hereford United: 9 seasons (play in NLN) – liquidated in 2014. Phoenix Cub, Hereford FC formed in 2014

    2012–13 Aldershot Town: 8 seasons (play in NL)

    2012-13 Barnet: 2 seasons – champions

    2013–14 Bristol Rovers: 1 season – PO

    2013-14 Torquay United: 7 seasons (play in NL)

    2014–15 Cheltenham Town: 1 season – champions

    2014-15 Tranmere Rovers: 3 seasons – PO

    2015–16 York City: 5 seasons (play in NLN)

    2015-16 Dagenham & Redbridge: 5 seasons (play in NL)

    2016–17 Hartlepool United: 4 seasons (play in NL)

    2016-17 Leyton Orient: 2 seasons – champions

    2017–18 Barnet: 3 seasons (play in NL)

    2017-18 Chesterfield: 3 seasons (play in NL)

    2018–19 Notts County: 2 seasons (play in NL)

    2018-19 Yeovil Town: 2 seasons (play in NL)

    2019–20 Macclesfield Town: 1 season (play in NWC Prem Div) – Wound Up & Ejected. Phoenix Club, Macclesfield FC formed in 2020.

    2020–21 Southend United: season in progress

    2020-21 Grimsby Town: season in progress

    The current 2021-22 season hasn’t been included in these figures.

    A micro glance at these statistics would suggest that we will most likely be in this league (National) for the next 5 to 10 seasons.

    If we are liquidated – then a Phoenix club would most probably be placed in the NECL at step 10.

    No new owners and no significant investment will probably likely see relegation to the NLN.

    Money talks – and it’s going to need a significant amount to bounce back at the first or second attempt.

    Oh well, plenty of new grounds to visit.

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    Probably more money in the National League than League Two?

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    ‘If we are liquidated – then a Phoenix club would most probably be placed in the NECL at step 10.’

    So dust off your old footy boots – you might be needed!

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    It looks as if it’ll be more than just a B&B stay over in the National League.

    Full Board & late night supper seems to be the reservation?

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    ‘If we are liquidated – then a Phoenix club would most probably be placed in the NECL at step 10.’

    So dust off your old footy boots – you might be needed!

    Do they play walking football in tier 10?

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    In all serious though, I’ve seen some tier 10 Counties teams that would give our current squad a real test.

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