Interesting.
Being as quite a few Liebour shadow ministers made it clear that Sunak shouldn’t have taken over from BoJo without a general election, what will be their position now?
Oh, sorry, I forgot Liebour’s motto:
Do as we say,
Not as we do.
He didn’t. there was this whacky woman in between.
However, as strange as it may seem I tend to agree ( bloody hell!).
But then again I think it’s a crying shame that Starmer has been forced to stand down. At the end of the day it’s the same party so the same policies should prevail.
But as we have seen in the World Cup tonight, the public aren’t bothered about teamwork all they want is celebrity.
Oh, and “ Do as we say, Not as we do” was how my late father used to describe Thatcherism back in the 80s. So not really a Labour motto at all.
I did find the left turning a blind eye to a group of radicalised thugs who used GBH against a police woman staggering. Violent assault for the cause is ok if you self-identify as having the ‘right views’. Oh, and you support ‘genocide’ if you think a bunch of self-righteous thugs can go round committing crimes for the cause without consequence.
Not saying this is your view at all, but the thugs in question deserved the punishment they ended up getting, no matter the pious pleas of their fans saying how ‘caring’ and ’empathic’ they are. They clearly had none for those trying to enforce the law; potenital life changing injuries or death is ok for them.
However, this is the modus operandi of Palestine Action and why they were proscribed. As such, supporters coming out to express fandom for this group will face arrest, just as far-right fans of prohibited far-right groups would. Being old or presenting themselves more respectably than your stereotpical National Action thug doesn’t mean they should face different consequences. I had reservation about labelling PA as a terrorist group, but they are still a radicalised group that aim to disrupt important state apparatus, like defence.
No state would accept that because the culprits think they’re so moral (everyone thinks they have morality) and if they think they are being silenced, they should question why they would be able to protest with no issue if they weren’t trying to disrupt state apparatus or thwack police with slegdehammers for doing their jobs.
I did find the left turning a blind eye to a group of radicalised thugs who used GBH against a police woman staggering. Violent assault for the cause is ok if you self-identify as having the ‘right views’. Oh, and you support ‘genocide’ if you don’t think a bunch of self-righteous thugs can go round committing crimes for the cause without consequence.
Not saying this is your view at all, but the thugs in question deserved the punishment they ended up getting, no matter the pious pleas of their fans saying how ‘caring’ and ’empathic’ they are. They clearly had none for those trying to enforce the law; potenital life changing injuries or death is ok for them.
However, this is the modus operandi of Palestine Action and why they were proscribed. As such, supporters coming out to express fandom for this group will face arrest, just as far-right fans of prohibited far-right groups would. Being old or presenting themselves more respectably than your stereotpical National Action thug doesn’t mean they should face different consequences. I had reservation about labelling PA as a terrorist group, but they are still a radicalised group that aim to disrupt important state apparatus, like defence.
No state would accept that because the culprits think they’re so moral (everyone thinks they have morality) and if they think they are being silenced, they should question why they would be able to protest with no issue if they weren’t trying to disrupt state apparatus or thwack police with slegdehammers for doing their jobs.
And, for clarity, I bring up the actions of who they support to demonstrate that they weren’t quite so kindly and for context. It’s an offence to support a proscribed group and that is what they were doing, so their arrests were perfectly legal. Just as it would be for any other banned group, be it Islamist or far-right. Starmer may have set in motion the banning, but when that is done, the police need to enforce the law as it stands and people are not above the law, no matter their age and how presentable they appear.
I was not speaking of the actions of PA with intent to say you support that, but to hammer home the reality of them supporting criminal thugs. I don’t intend to imply that anyone with a different view is like them. However, any criticism of Starmer should be about his decision to proscribe them, because arrests for supporting proscribed groups come from long before Starmer, but given the nature of PA I can understand why there were bans. Even if the terrorist reading may be more in contention.
Guess it’s all about opinions or in GB news case propaganda. Heard Farage attempting to justify his freebie 5million quid this morning, now that’s a proper wanker for ya.
How’s this for embarrassing?
Twitter/X filled with slimy sycophantic comments about what a marvelous guy, PM, MP, DPP etc Starmer was.
Yeah… So hood he’s had to resign.
Burnham talking a good game. Can he deliver? We shall see. Certainly has the ability to take people who get things done along with him. Some pants browned in Westminster with the notion of ‘No.10 North’ anyway. A mission to re-build the Red Wall? Perhaps. He’ll need some quick wins to keep the chavs, gammons and weirdo’s at bay.
Not impressed with the running from the press and much was made about Starmer not delivering on manifesto pledges, but when did anyone vote on anything Burnham puts forward? Some of it may sound good, but it all sounds utopian and after Starmer gets railed by the press for not delivering in 2 years, I don’t think his 10 year plan will get any patience and he would reap what he has sowed there, given his own undermining.
Not sure how a number 10 in the north would work. There would be a lot of time needed for it to happen, with the civil service roles being moved there. Sounds like a soundbyte to me and wouldn’t be surprised if it gets dropped.
Be interesting to see if he can replicate the Manchester revival under him on a national basis, time will tell but I admire anybody who wants to bring about radical change. It’s ok people saying Britain isn’t working under successive governments and we want change, well maybe a complete change of emphasis on how government works and is run is long overdue. The HS2 farce is a prime example of a major government project that has backfired, remember how Cameron and Osborne pushed it as opening up the North to business investment? A few chops and changes plus a massive overspend or perhaps a ridiculous underestimate in the first place and suddenly the North can f*** off. London to the Midlands all fine and dandy, the North , well it’s just tough guys, we will make a lot of noise about how overtime we will improve the existing lines but it’s BS and people know that. Hope Burnham gives government the thorough kicking it deserves IMO.
If Burnham is a turd then Farage is a whole sewage farm.
I know who I’d rather have.
Of course you do.
Are you actually a Communist?
Burnham’s politics are very much centre-left (quite different from Brown and Milliband, but similar positioning on a political barometer). Starmer and Blair more centre to centre-left. Corbyn has been the only Labour leader in this century to left, rather than centre-left. Basically, if you are communist, Labour isn’t your party. Cameron, May, Sunak were centre-right. Truss was right wing politically. Johnson and Farage are just as right wing as their donors tell them to be, with additional demagoguery for NF. If you want a communist, vote for Alex Gordon, if you want a nazi vote for Rupert Lowe. If you want a leader who’s there to help the billionaires and himself (while blaming everything on foreigners) vote for Farage.
Quite a few on the right try to make out something is different than it actually is, biggest joke was the use of the word “ woke” which was taken completely out of context to what the word actually means and has spread into our political language by simply disagreeing about everything a centre left government does by the right. Just google the word woke and see but the right won’t want their cake and eat it mindset disrupted by something so “ woke” as the truth.
The Nazi were fascists and liars and murderers, what they called themselves is immaterial, Trump calls himself the greatest potus of all time and he’s a fruit loop and a liar. You probably love him alcy but I’m only guessing.
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