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May 28, 2024 at 9:55 am #286263
It seems re-joining is a taboo subject but, once again Tax evading newspaper owners setting the right wing national agenda.
May 28, 2024 at 10:57 am #286274Mixed feelings on this one.
As a member of the European Movement I got an email from Michael Heseltine demanding the subject be part of the main parties’ election manifestos.
Personally I think it could be a distraction. The main objective should be getting rid of the Tory sludge.
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May 28, 2024 at 12:00 pm #286283As much as I didn’t want to leave the EU, I’m not sure I’m prepared for another toxic Farage-laden election based on the hatred of people born in different countries. Let’s keep this forthcoming election based on the damage the Tories have made (to everybody outside of the top 1%), and on what other parties are going to do to fix it.
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May 28, 2024 at 12:01 pm #286284Rejoining would likely involve us having to consider joining the Schengen zone and the eurozone, which would cause issues among the population. The reduction of a complex situation to a simple binary question was always an issue with Brexit. It’s why we went from Brexiters arguing for Swiss style deals before the referendum to how Swiss style deals are Brexit lite and a betrayal of ‘the people’ afterwards. The referendum caused division and issues partially because the complex nature being presented as a simple one allowed politicians to not pin themselves down to specifics, and to portray ‘softer’ Brexit deals as being against democracy. If there was a more thorough campaign to drill what Brexit would mean before the referendum, it might have been less divisive, because we wouldn’t have had Farage, Hannan and co flip flop around from Swiss style deals to saying that’s against the ‘will of the people’ in a matter of months. It benefited them from a political point to the country’s detriment.
Similarly, any attemps to rejoin will have to be honest about the complexities. Talks of rejoining may sound pleasant to some, but it might sound less pleasant to others when you bring in what it would entail. The EU would want assurances and would be less lenient on opting out of aspects as before, because they wouldn’t want to deal with a state that changes its mind every decade. Also, the time span for rejoining. I suspect any attempts to rejoin wouldn’t be for years, and we should focus on rebuilding ties as much as possible, after years of pretending we can match the trade deals and links with CANZUK or other pipe dreams.
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