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So distressing seeing an Israeli father who thought his young daughter had originally been killed by Hamas, pleading for her release tonight after finding out there is a good chance she was kidnapped and taken to Gaza by Hamas. He begs for compassion from Hamas and to allow all the young Israeli children kidnapped to be released as a start to stopping the conflict. It was also reported tonight that out of over 10,000 people murdered by Israel in Gaza in the last four weeks, 4000 of these were Palestinian children. Compassion indeed.
The Israeli makes a point which I have thought for a while. No-one other than sadists thinks war is the optimal situation right now; my point has not been that this is good, but I don’t see how it can be avoided given the situation. Though, surely the best way out of this is for the hostages to be released, Hamas to surrender and free Palestine from the grip of an insane cult who endangers their lives directly through antagonising Israel and killing Palestinians who go against it. Only yesterday I saw photos and videos of Hamas operating in hospitals and artillery located next to or in schools and mosques. This is deliberate placement to ensure civilian casualties.
What I think should happen is that Arab countries should demand Hamas that the gig is up, they have no support from them and surrender with hostages released. If so, the US and UK would have no desire to continue backing Israel should Netanyahu and his far-right allies want to make territorial gains. If this was to happen we would get rid of Hamas and the war would be over. It would mean Fatah would likely get control of Gaza, and I am under no illusion as to them being good. They are still anti-Semitic, but I don’t think so mad to do anything like October 7. It would be a nudge to at least normalising things.
I get why people focus on Israel, as they are the ones launching a military operation into Gaza, but we can achieve peace by arguing for Hamas to give up too. That would also alleviate fears that future ceasefires could be broken and longer term peace is more likely. Calling on Israel to stop is one thing, but Hamas show no indication to stop rocket fire or attacks on Israeli citizens (and they don’t care who they kill – Bedouin, Israeli Arabs, Druze etc were all killed on Oct 7). That isn’t peace. However, if I was to say this at one of these ‘peace marches’ I suspect there would be a lot of anger directed at me from the so called pacifists.
I share Emily Maitlis’s sentiments here for Palestine.
— emily m (@maitlis) November 6, 2023
You can see the reaction of the Palestinian activists here in the replies, who leap to the defense of Hamas, despite claiming they don’t support them.