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Ha yes of course, like burying Ford .
Trying to bury this now eh/ You’re sort are a joke, should we really accept today’s performance go unchallenged ?
Not really, your post was quite cryptic so I wasn’t engaging with a content devoid opening post. I was just pointing out that none of us ‘Blairites’ are going to take any lessons in conscience from ardent Corbyn fans on this given what they supported.
As for this, Coaker made it quite clear he wasn’t going to oppose, since the Lords is an amending chamber, not for legislative or ideological disagreement, and that doing so would destroy precedent. Labour have criticised the government for playing fast with the rules, so they would be massive hypocrites for doing that, even if honourable. The consequences down the lune could be huge too, because Tories in the Lords can do the same thing and it becomes a more unruly mess. The idea this creates a problem with conscientious voting is a bit daft, given the reason why, but to be honest, you wouldn’t view it differently, regardless. So the effect is lost because I don’t think you would ever judge it bearing in mind such issues over parliamentary process, so your comment on conscientious voting becomes worthy of a shoulder shrug because of this, as well as your stance in supporting someone who let anti-Semitism into the party.
I can’t take such claims from Corbyn’s big fans seriously.