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  • #311012
    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
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    #311013
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    I have read the Wealdstone match report and although it does not give the reason for the game being abandoned, ( their players refusing to play ) it clearly states they made 4 substitutions. You are allowed 5.
    And if they had no more subs, the manager can play, he did in TED LASSO !

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    You can make 5 substitutions but only using 3 substitution occurrences. They made their 3, therefore couldn’t make any more.

    #311015
    RedMistTorpsFistRedMistTorpsFist
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    League have awarded us the Wealdstone match.

    League have ordered the Eastleigh match to replayed.

    Superb.

    #311016
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    Do the NL (committee or whatever) only meet every month? I can understand the Eastleigh situation might require some discussion but Wealdstone looks pretty straightforward. Discussions re penalties can take place later. Are they totally unaware of how these delays affect our suspended players and therefore the club?

    #311017
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    A couple of interesting points; goals for and against are wiped – we get 3 points and 0 improvement to goal difference. Alfie must be gutted.

    Also, Wealdstone’s board apparently were in touch with NL after the match to say they believe Scunthorpe should have been awarded the points. Fair play.

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    #311018
    BobbyGmeisterBobbyGmeister
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    Why should we be punished on goal difference? Having said that, there’s no way of knowing that 2-1 would be the final score.

    Having to replay the Eastleigh match is ridiculous when only seconds remained but fair play on the quick(ish) decision on the Wealdstone match.

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    #311020
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    Credit to the Wealdstone board. Hope Sam Cox was given a stern talking to by their directors for that.

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    #311021
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    Why should we be punished on goal difference? Having said that, there’s no way of knowing that 2-1 would be the final score.

    Having to replay the Eastleigh match is ridiculous when only seconds remained but fair play on the quick(ish) decision on the Wealdstone match.

    Agreed, but it’s the rules. Same thing happened with that Buxton game 2 years ago.

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    #311022
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    The only problem is that at the end of the season we miss out on a higher league position on fewer goals scored.
    (To say nothing of Whitehall and a possible golden boot)

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    #311024
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    Replaying the Eastleigh game – correct decision.

    Getting 3 points for Wealdstone – correct decision.

    BUT

    Wiping off the goals scored/conceded is a mad decision! We’ve effectively been punished whilst Wealdstone have benefited. If it were UEFA we would have received a 3-0 victory similar to Romania vs Kosovo when the Kosovo players walked off the pitch and refused to play. Obviously the NL seems things differently.

    At the end of the season if we’re about to get relegated or drop out of the playoffs on goal difference you just walk off the pitch and refuse to play…job done. Absolutely bonkers!

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    #311025
    Deereyme66Deereyme66
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    Correct decision regarding replaying Eastleigh and our 3 points for Wealdstone game. Wiping out goals only punishes us. Not good enough NL. Weak. Wealdstone must be pleased with that outcome and that they weren’t more justifiably punished for bringing the game in to disrepute. Still, we should doff our caps to the greater power. Probably what thet expect.

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    #311027
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    At least we’re more educated on the rules.
    Knowledge is power.
    And consistency is key which with the Eastleigh game runs true to previous ala Buxton, doesn’t matter about the score winning or losing the game will be replayed in full.
    Hope our team never gets involved again that’s 3 times in just over 2 years (should have been 4 with the Curzon fiasco) we’ve had our fill for now.

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    So pleased the Wealdstone decision has gone your way – as it always should have done but I never trust the NL. Ridiculous why the goals don’t count though.

    As regards the Eastleigh match, I remember some years ago now, Southport were away at Alfreton (?) in April ( i.e. almost end of season) when the match was abandoned just before the end. For weather I think. Anyway, scores was 1-1, both sides were in agreement to settle for a draw. However the NL insisted upon a replay. Which was quickly squeezed in. Southport won the replayed match and those 2 extra points saw them be NLN Champions.
    So you never know!!

    Good luck for the rest of the season.

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    #311031
    AwaywegoAwaywego
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    Wealdstone statement too little and a minimum of 2 days late.

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    Really struggling to get my head around the goals being wiped. Surely it sets the precedent that if you’re losing towards the end of a game you just walk off the pitch and refuse to play. You’ll still get zero points but will be as if you never conceded.

    Or a final game showdown between two teams vying for promotion/playoff spot/safety…one team needs to beat the other by 2 goals and are 5-0 up…nah just walk off the pitch.

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    #311034
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    Very inconsistent thinking over at the National League HQ. The Wealdstone goals don’t count, but they name Alfie Beestin in their team of the week, and describe his goal? Is it eligible for goal of the month?

    Could Beestin and Whitehall have a Paqueta style claim that their future earnings are being tarnished by their goals being unfairly chalked off?

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    Really struggling to get my head around the goals being wiped. Surely it sets the precedent that if you’re losing towards the end of a game you just walk off the pitch and refuse to play. You’ll still get zero points but will be as if you never conceded.

    Or a final game showdown between two teams vying for promotion/playoff spot/safety…one team needs to beat the other by 2 goals and are 5-0 up…nah just walk off the pitch.

    Need to see if further action is taken against Wealdstone. It should be otherwise it will only be a loss of 3pts. For me should have half of points accrued deducted. So as they have 12 then they lose 6 and if later in the season the same 50% deduction stands – now that could be season ending !

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    #311037
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    The National league have now taken their rules download down, went on to see if we could appeal the decision on the goals, and the 0-0 rule itself.
    Not is it only unfair on us other clubs could claim it’s unfair on them if they miss out as well.
    Dont know what’s wrong with the normal 3-0 to the team not at fault.

    #311038
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    Someone on FB has made a good point, if you’re in the last game of the season and goal difference is significant eg a minus 1 goal difference defeat gives you promotion (or saves you from relegation) and you’re losing by more just walk off and get a zero goal difference.

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    They’ve got away with it and profited

    #311043
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    Now the National League are saying you can get 3 points without scoring more goals than the opposition, if we retrospectively applied this new method think how many points we would have amassed over the years.

    #311044
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    Someone on FB has made a good point, if you’re in the last game of the season and goal difference is significant eg a minus 1 goal difference defeat gives you promotion (or saves you from relegation) and you’re losing by more just walk off and get a zero goal difference.

    That team would need a reason for doing so though. Like Wealdstone claimed they did. Ways and means though I guess. It would be interesting to see what the NL did in that situation. Stick to their rules or make an exception?

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    #311045
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    Here’s a working link to their rulebook.

    https://www.ncefl.org.uk/league/rules/downloads/NCEL_League_Rules_2025-26.pdf

    Nothing in there about having to have a certain reason for applying rule 8.38. Just walk off the pitch if you’re losing.

    “In the event of a match being abandoned due to the conduct of one Club or its members or supporters, the Board has the power to order that either: (a) the original match stands as a completed match, (b) the match is replayed (and the terms upon which the match is replayed), or (c) the match is not replayed, and to award either one or three points to the Club not at fault. The Board cannot levy a financial penalty due to the conduct of a Club.”

    Suggests they would have been well within their “rules” to award us a 2-1 win as a “completed match”.

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    #311047
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    The fact is we have been awarded the the 3 points. Yes it’s crap for Beestin and Whitehall, who both scored cracking goals, but equally Wealdstone were still well in with a chance of equalising and who knows what could have happened then. Take the 3 points and move on, as I said at the time it was embarrassing and I’d be ashamed to be a Wealdstone fan after that, utterly pathetic by their players.

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    #311049
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    Last away game of season? Wealdstone
    Last game of season? Eastleigh.
    Reckon we would take a lot of fans if still in the mix.

    #311057
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    And if on that day Wealdstone need to win with a 2 or more goal margin to avoid relegation and are winning 2-0…just walk off the pitch and condemn them to a 0-0 win.

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    The FA haven’t stepped in yet though? I’m sure the ref will have reported it to them

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    #311072
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    Top reporting from the local Barnet Times :-
    “In highly unusual circumstances, the decision was taken by referee Declan Bourne to end the match in the 78th minute after Nkrumah collided in mid-air with a Scunthorpe defender before a lengthy stoppage in play as the Stones forward received treatment.”
    Wrong on 2 counts.

    And:-
    “After a sustained period of both possession and chances for Wealdstone, Shrewsbury found themselves back on level terms at the 30-minute mark thanks to a sensational volleyed effort from Alfie Beestin, whose shot flew past Dante Baptiste from outside the box.”
    Oh dear.

    #311073
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    A bit sorta wretched.

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