I see his people all the time, travel on the train with some of them, see them in the pubs but funnily enough he’s never with them, used to be many years ago but not anymore.
What I don’t get (I do really he’s lying) that as a moderator on this site that he hasn’t read any posts about Butler telling fans to stay away, thought that’s what the role was meant to do read all posts to see that they are ok for everyone to read.
Obviously just blind and deaf when he sees fit.
