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Well, we can debate the accuracy of stats till the cows… etc etc.. but there are various reliable sources which all quote approximately the same numbers.
However, that would be missing the point. How many deaths is enough before you’d say enough is enough? Can you give a figure?? 40k? 50K 100k Palestinian dead? How many elderly and sick? How many kids have to starve, suffer and lose their families? Figures anyone? Thought not.
The thing is this. It’s not possible to debate with a Nazi or anyone with such blinkered vision about anything, whether it’s online or in a football forum or whatever. They just won’t see any other point of view, because they are incapable.
The radio phone-ins are similar. You can present all kinds of factual information showing that what someone believes is based on lies, myths, exaggerations etc. and ask them at the end ‘Has any of this changed your view at all?’ And they say ‘Well, no, it hasn’t’.
That’s because these people have no interest in facts or truth. They are so tightly wedded to their beliefs they can’t let go of them, because if they did, they’d mentally collapse. It’s also why online forums are so unsuited to serious debate, because they are one of the few places political or religious fanatics get to air their views without being called a crackpot/bigot/nutter in person.
Worse, thanks to social media they easily find others who are as blinkered and bonkers as themselves, which reinforces their fantasies, along with the mysterious algorithm which detects the kind of bilge they like to read – such as JI’s beloved World News Daily – and pushes even more bilge in their direction.
So, it’s a fool’s errand to debate issues such as Palestine in an online forum, when no amount of facts or argument would be likely to shift the dial of someone as biased and blinkered as JI, any more than Bucksiron (remember him?) would have chucked away his blue scarf in disgust at the Tories’ malfeasance and shouted ‘Chairman Keir for PM’ from the rooftops.
Sad, but true.