Fair comment JI, I should also add that I attended confirmation classes and took the confirmation service at 13 overseen by the then Bishop of Lincoln. It was mainly because a few of my mates did it after being encouraged by their parents but we all regarded it as a laugh and never were really interested. As I got older I became totally disinterested and just stopped all religious input as I became more aware of the wider world and what was going on. Since then I have rejected all religion and came to the conclusion a long time ago that it was just a control exercise and when I see the way poorer countries are seemingly so dependent on it it just convinces me more that the poorer the people the greater religion takes control. If they are happy and needy belief in their lives that’s fine by me and I have no problem if religion gives some people comfort but I’m happy believing in my version of things and I think we should all respect each others positions, certainly people going out of their way to convince me of god and religion get short shrift in fact many religious people I know don’t even bother now, they know my position.