People who disagree with you aren’t always illogical, lesser minded fools, Gurny. They might just have a different opinion, based off reason. I felt there were cases to be made on both sides of the Dean in or out debate. I disagreed with him staying, but it doesn’t mean I don’t think those who disagree with me were abandoning logic; they raised some good points. It doesn’t make anyone ‘abandoning logic and forethought’ because they disagree with you.