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How about trying to understand and address any grievances, real or perceived.
It happened in South Africa, the US and even in Northern Ireland.
Happy people don’t develop terrorism.
There are evil violent people waiting for an opportunity to impose themselves on others, don’t give them that opportunity.

So, because of perceived injustices of the past, Israel should just accept Hamas slaughtering their citizens and do nothing about it? My point was not about past actions, but the current situation. Hamas have a dictatorial governance over Gaza, want to continue this, so where is the peace with the ceasefire? Is it peace if they want to break it and would most likely do so?

It’s funny how I have been called patronising when that first sentence is incredibly so. I am aware that Palestinians have grievances, some justified, but none of that excuses proliferation of anti-Semitism. When Islamists commit terror attacks here we are rightfully told not to use this to radicalise ourselves into anti-Muslim bigotry. When it comes to Israel, their actions are perfectly acceptable to enable radicalism against Israel and Jews, seemingly. What’s more, the actions of Israel are not the be all and end all for anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism has been in existence there for centuries, as it was in Europe. In WWII the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem encouraged the formation of Muslim SS divisions to kill Jews in the Holocaust. Jews were being ethnically cleansed from Yemen, Iraq, Libya etc. I doubt the perpetrators traveled in time to see Israel come into existence and make questionable acts over the following decades. So, no, take away Israel’s actions and they won’t go away. Many of them don’t want Israel to exist; its existence is justification for them to continue.

As for South Africa and Northern Ireland. Taking away contextual differences, neither engaged in the sort of bloodshed Hamas have done. IRA and UVF launched terror attacks, but neither launched pogroms of such brutality or called for the elimination of the other side. ANC specifically launched a campaign to minimise civilian casualties, while Hamas aim to maximise it for both Palestinians and Israelis for different reasons. Both South Africa and Northern Ireland found greater peace poilitically, which Hamas do not seek. Violent resistance has achieved sod all in 75 years.