Reply To: Bombing hospitals

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The question is again about what should Israel do instead after an act of war and hostages taken. There won’t be a ceasefire of any sort until that happens. It would be like demanding UK call a ceasefire after Germany started WWII by invading Poland. A ceasefire is only possible when certain conditions are met, and Israel won’t pertain it for now; they won’t want to make Hamas think they can do a pogrom and kidnapping again without consequence to them. It’s all well and good saying Israel should stop, but they aren’t the only ones with agency. It shouldn’t be too much for Hamas to give up the hostages.

As for what both sides say, yes there will be conflicting claims. Yet that doesn’t mean it’s impossible to determine anything. It has been clear that Russian claims are far more false than Ukrainian, and independent sources. Their spreading of disinformation doesn’t invalidate everything the other side says. It shouldn’t be about believing what suits your opinion, it should be about what the evidence suggests. This event is still early, but if people are going to make claims then they need to back it up. OSINT is an open source intelligence network, not affiliated to Israel or Palestine, and they have stated that the hospital was bombed by a failed PIJ missile:

Footage has been released from Northern Gaza earlier tonight which appears to possibly show a Rocket launched by Palestinian Groups in the Strip having Exploded for an Unknown Reason causing Debris to Rain Down resulting in the Explosion and subsequent Fire at Al-Ahli Arabi… pic.twitter.com/3qVdzkW3aV

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) October 17, 2023

The evidence they give for this comes from a rocket strike, as captured by Al Jazeera at the same time as the hospital bombing, coming from the ground (I doubt the IDF airforce fly at ground level) and Hamas and PIJ announcing a barrage of missiles a few minutes before the bombing.