Difficult area, we need armed police for certain scenarios on the streets particularly in our large cities where more firearms seem more readily available to criminal gangs but we need to avoid the American way of having armed police constantly on the streets and therefore this gives a more relaxed approach to when and how guns in the hands of officers are used. Are the Met officers handing in their guns really concerned about the risk they may be under for murder charges brought against them or are they just supporting a colleague who has been charged with murder? As I said a very difficult area of discussion.