Reply To: Do you want separation from God forever?

[Siderite]

If I was to be as simplistic as you, I’d point out that western, secularised society has given great benefits to the world in science, technology, yet moral values still exist. It might not be the same as yours, but there is a value system there as we have seen implemented in gay rights, women’s rights etc. Yet the so morally superior, theistic nations ruin women’s lives, gay’s lives, have racial discrimination towards others etc.

So, kindly, bugger off with your endless moral grandiosity. I can accept that Christians can be moral, as can Muslims, Jews, Hindus and Pagans. I accept that people can be moral, while they follow a different view to me. However, you are utterly unable or unwilling to understand anyone else’s point of view and will try and degrade others for a pathetic gotcha. Your attempts to use controversial topics, like Hitler, demonstrates your crassness and small minded mindset perfectly. If others see this and think this is strong, I will say that the topics brought about by bpg are intended to be demeaning towards others and display a stunning lack of empathy or understanding.

Your dogmatic mindset seemingly compulses you to try and demonstrate how superior your view is compared to the rest of us misguided fools. However, it’s the same tired tripe I have seen before by a fundamentalist who has next to zero hope of converting others to their religion. Your religion has been responsible for much misery itself, from the Crusades (massacring a huge percentage of Jews, Muslims etc), killing Pagans in Poland and the Baltic areas, genocide of heretical Christians (Cathars), murders of ‘witches’, the Spanish Inquisition, Ante Pavelic and his genocides (among others) and Serbs killing Muslims back in the 90s. Witch burnings still happen in parts of Africa and gays are down trodden and killed in some countries for who they are. I am not saying this to demonise Christianity as irredeemable; I am aware that many Christians used their beliefs to do good, such as many who opposed slavery in the US south. I have fonder views of other Christians on this board, even though I disagree on a lot. My point is that Christianity doesn’t gurantee morality, and these Christians who committed immoral acts saw themselves as Christian as you do.

The major cause of chaos and misery is ideological certainty and dogmatism. Be it Christianity, Islam, communism or fascism. I stand against all of the atrocities and oppression caused by dogmatism to faiths and political ideologies alike.