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Now, the monarchy is hereditary and little would be lost and much gained by ditching it. The EU is the opposite on all counts, as we have seen. And, everything has been made immeasurably worse, exactly as predicted by those influenced by facts, not beliefs.
And, let’s clear this up about voting. Heathy’s post says it all. ‘Diktats’ ‘remote bureaucracy’ – it’s your linguaprint giving you away again, Justles, it’s the right-winger’s vocabulary of choice when criticising the left or the EU… you’d no more vote remain than visit Pyongyang or Mecca!
As for your dossier idea, it seems if anyone remembers what you said they must have a file on you, and if they don’t they must be confused – so much for your ‘nuanced thinking’.
But this ‘process’ of thought of which you speak, is absolutely fascinating. How intellectually impressive, highly developed, and culturally renaissance. No doubt it went something like this….
Pre-referendum you might have read propaganda on Bru from erm… Lesgeo. Let’s revisit some of that. Our first exhibit is a post of June 11th 2014, 7.33 am, where he states that “I know the party (UKIP) inside out and am always truthful.” (!!!) A man of the church, an educator, and a former magistrate we are told… so absolutely no reason whatsoever to question his credentials, or indeed the content of our second exhibit, from Bru and dated Dec. 10th 2015….
“Please please take ten minutes of your time to read this – then send to everyone on your email list and place on Facebook – requesting others to do the same. Thanks, I spent a very long time researching all of this.
– Firms leaving the UK after Brexit – evidence not given.
– They don’t call the EU the evil empire for nothing.
– We have hitched our wagon to a dying horse.
– The EU is failing.
– Turkey will soon join the EU. One careful newspaper poll found that 12 million Turks are considering coming to the UK. Inside the EU, even if only 20% true this cannot be prevented.
– Have you noticed in the TV debates how it is only the Remainists (sic) who shout down opponents – ask yourself why this would be!”
Strangely, these lies and others appeared ‘verbatim’ on far-right Christian websites, namely:
https://briangemmell.blogspot.com/2016/06/
They even appeared on the extraordinarily racist ‘Truth Wars’ website (which now requires a user login)
https://truth-wars.co.uk/forum/index.php/board,21.0.html
The chief contributor to Truth Wars is known as ‘the Leveller’. He even claims to be a good Catholic, while putting up pieces like ‘Farage Brilliant in Australia’, ‘an Evening with Enoch Powell’ and ‘Katie Hopkins at the For Britain Conference’, together with assorted pro-BNP pieces.
Now, I’m sure there’s no connection between Lesgeo, the jonnies, and the Leveller. Their dabbling with the far-right would be like not only dancing, but suppin’ wi’ the devil, and that really would be too dark, wouldn’t it?? Certainly not a recipe for the ‘personal growth’ of which you speak, more like personal atrophy!
But, it really is odd that all contributions to these sites are anonymous. Why do you think this might be? And how on earth did they end up on Bru, via Lesgeo?
So, pre-referendum and prior to allegedly voting ‘leave’, after digesting the above, and carefully reflecting on it, if you’d been asked why should anyone vote ‘remain’, you might well have said something like:
“I think we should remain because leaving the EU would be utterly foolish and harm the country economically, politically and socially. With these and other racist and un-Christian posts polluting Bru, I think Les and others are gaslighting and grooming board members and their friends and families simply to further their own agendas, not least of which is jonnies’ career.”
You might well have added “Moreover, the whole leave campaign is orchestrated by lying, shamelessly populist, self-promoting racists to take attention away from the government incompetence in a recession. Those Kippers lying about foreigners are just looking for a political or religious endorsement for their own bigotries. Stupid is as stupid does. And while we suffer at home, you’ve got that Arnott daring to moan about the shoddiness of the shoddy sofa-bed in his Brussels office!! I don’t know if there’s a place in hell for liars and cheats, but some contrition could mean a briefer stay in purgatory!”
And that would be it – a perfectly calm, rational, objective assessment.
But here we are, several years on, and despite all that has happened and all we now know, your contentment with ‘leave’ must presumably have come about following a conversion of truly biblical, Damascene proportions…. alas you don’t say above, but do prey tell Bru what that was!
Certainly, it was a funny old time. You can read all about it in my new Australian-style autobiography ‘A-Fumblin’ and A-Fakin’ it’!