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“Actually, Siderite, I criticise the Tories a lot and if you check back over my posts you’ll see that to be the case.”
Where have I said you haven’ in this thread? I mean we can go into that if you want, but your previous condemnations have been weak, full of distracting what abouts to Labour and you always seem to damn anyone for making a critical argument of the Tories if you don’t agree with it. You have in this thread made out people critical of values seen as appalling
“What I don’t see are any comments on how to address the problem, other than saying it isn’t surmountable.”
It’s not my job to do so, I am not in government. However, I am allowed to have an opinion on whether it’s a good solution in a democracy. The Tory solution seems to be to deport everyone immediately, regardless, and then whine when people point out this might not be a moral solution. 76% of asylum seeker cases were accepted last year from boat crossings, so in Braverman’s world these people would be sent back. And I am not supposed to think ill of someone who rejects something I consider as moral? That’s what’s absurd.
“It’s also highly disingenuous to come out with absurd comments about Government ministers not caring”
I don’t think people like Braverman are being empathetic. Why is it ‘disingenuous’ of me to think this? Am I obliged to think the best of people when they have demonstrated what I see as poor moral values, because it might hurt precious feelings of those who support the government? If Braverman cared she would not toss red meat to sound like the problem is being sorted, when they know it might not pass through the courts. If she cared she’d know that 76% of asylum cases from such kind of arrivals were approved, and wouldn’t use the rhetoric she does to make out many are not worthy. I am supposed to have overreaching good faith towards some Tories seemingly, yet lefties can be bashed without care. Right. I mean, there’s plenty to bash about the left, but your aching concern is hidden by a lot of bias and agenda.
I am basing my opinion on this on my own interpretation, or is that not allowed? I am not saying all Tories are like this, but seemingly negative opinions of some makes me suspect. If Braverman is going to push forward policy which, in my view, harms humans they can expect negative opinions on them and their morals. I fail to see what’s so hideous about this, beyond the precious hurt feelings of some who like Braverman (hurt feelings matter more than human rights, seemingly). I certainly don’t see what’s disingenuous in taking a view that she doesn’t care based on her lack of care for an honest discussion on this for political gain.
It’s ok for you to cast your own self-righteous spiel about damn lefties, but when someone says something bad about the right it shows the judgemental nature of the left. Yawn. Hypocrisy. Fact is that I am not that left wing, and I am forever being damned as an evil righty by people of 64’s left wing nature, and you will say I am a gutter sniping lefty. Meh, I can live with it; it just shows the dogmatic nature of those launching such blanket statements to dismiss anything anyone else says, to me. Anything I can be said, which is critical can just be dismissed because of prejudice about my ‘left wing nature’ and nothing can be valid in any way, even if it’s disagreed with.
