Sorry, memory fade, I’ve seen you use the term ‘proxy war’ in reference to the current situation, which is a term often used by those Putin apologists I personally know and those in the public eye. As far as I’m aware Zelensky asked for help from other countries after Ukraine was invaded by Russia. Unless you or anyone else know different? I haven’t seen any evidence to convince me that the US encouraged Ukraine to start a war on it’s behalf. Just for clarity too, I would describe a ‘Putin apologist’ as anyone who said or continues to claim that Putin was pushed and provoked in to invading Ukraine, and therefore apologising for his actions. If anyone thinks that applies to them, on here or anywhere else, so be it.