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Hi Gurney. You wrote: ‘And here we have a perfect example of the kind of defensive, patronising and insulting attitude which is the hallmark of those whose beliefs are threatened.’
I thought, given the content and tone of your previous replies … and the repeated demands for me to respond to specifics whilst continuously ignoring anything that I might challenge you with … that I was fairly restrained. I also feel obliged to point out that you flatter yourself if you think that you have come anywhere near to ‘threatening’ my beliefs.
You also said : ‘PS a reasoned and coherent faith position is a contradiction in terms. Reason requires facts and logic. Faith requires neither. It’s in the realm of the irrational, which you evidently prefer, JI.’
No. You’re getting confused again, Gurney. I approach statements about Faith exactly as I have done throughout this series of posts … rationally. You seem to be confusing irrationality with suprarationality …above, yet including the rational; encompassing a truth of scope greater than ordinary logic or reason. It’s what the Bard was driving at when he penned the famous words ‘There are more things in heaven and earth (Gurney) than are dreamt of in your philosophy.’ This is why some of the eminent thinkers I mentioned … Lennox, McGrath, C S Lewis and hosts of others … find no contradiction between their intellectual endeavours and their Christian beliefs.
Despite the finger pointing at me I have come to the conclusion that there are three pointing back at yourself. You seem to have, possibly for reasons that you have yourself outlined above, developed a compulsion towards ‘exposing’ ‘denigrating’ and ‘destroying’ the possibility of intelligent human beings holding to a worldview that is not available to your usual means of perception. Others on here seem to be content to challenge, some with more courtesy and respect than others, but then shrug and accept that we see things differently. Why not do the same, my friend. Where does this drive and energy to ‘win’ come from. You clearly aren’t going to present me with your own alternative worldview for me to critique ( albeit more politely and respectfully than you have critiqued mine) so how about wrapping this up and we move on?