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Still one sided, NI. It’s not just about the woman if you see the unborn as a person. You clearly don’t. I do. We have different beliefs.
A second point. As a man I care about humanity. Male, female and unborn. That’s why I state my opinion.
The unborn are not in any way sentient. Many women would find it grossly offensive to think that their own worth and choices over their own body is worth as much or less than an embryo.
You are, of course, welcome to these beliefs. However, a society shouldn’t have to live by the whims of anyone else’s beliefs. By outlawing abortion in many states women are now being prevented from something based on a belief, regardless of their own background. This is what is wrong about religion, the talk on whether Christian belief is a religion misses the point. Belief, with harmful side effects, is being forced upon others, be it USA or Afghanistan.
Do I think abortion is something to be taken lightly? No. Do I think there should be a limit? Yes. However, I do think a woman has the right to decisions on her own body, especially when the ‘unborn’ is not remotely sentient, capable of life without the uterus and akin to a human as we know it. When assessing morality I base it off how my actions will affect others, and I cannot see an embryo with no internal feeling or sentience as remotely equal to the woman. To do so would be hugely degrading to the woman.
I would be more believing that the Republicans have any kind of care for the woman if they did anything to help them in this. Increased birth rates would only create severe economic challenges on the family, and it’s the mother who bears the brunt. Instead, Republicans are against any kind of social care, so they have to fend for themselves. Unsafe abortions will increase, putting the mother at a health risk. Instead, Republicans are more concerned about how to criminalise women for abortions, including talk of the sodding death penalty in some states.
Looking at other countries who have strict abortion laws shows the worry. El Salvador has given life sentences to women for a miscarriage. Brazil have separated children from mothers who tried to pursue an abortion beforehand to become state orphans. The USA has poor maternal mortality, with their insurance based healthcare system being one reason. Pro-life conservatives do not bother with this, they do not help out, so I do not believe them when they claim they care about women. Pro-life for the unborn, until they are born, where they lose interest and they can both rot together.
I should state that I am speaking a lot in generalities here. I do not mean to accuse you of not caring about women.
