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AWG, the thing is this. You and many others on here have been lied to so often and for so long, it’s hard to work out where the truth lies, except in your gut. It makes it even harder when people in high places say things that sound true and confirm your prejudices.
It’s reached a point where, if someone asks you why you think something, you can just make up an answer. And it really doesn’t matter what you say, because everyone is lying, and you can use it to convince other people and even yourself, just like a child does.
That’s what you did above, about the Roma, wasn’t it AWG? You heard a rumour about travellers and Cowling and made up the rest to make him look a hypocrite. And as if you cared anyway about French travellers in a Colchester car park!
But, it shows why so many people fall prey to conspiracies these days – they’ve been lied to for so long, and had their gut feelings confirmed by sly bastards in office and online, they think the only reason that actual proof is lacking, is because there’s a conspiracy to keep the truth from them about Brexit, Covid, vaccination, BLM and a host of other issues.
What’s the way forward? Come out and admit you’ve been lied to, had, cheated and bullshitted?
No, you’re too far up the tree – climbing down is too hard. If you’ve told your friends and family you’re a Kipper, a Brexiter and / or anti-BLM, etc. you can’t just turn around and admit you’ve been had. You’d look stupid!
But you could start by questioning things, asking for proper proof and not just believing what you read online, for example when you hear ‘a careful newspaper poll found that 100 million Turks were going to come to the UK – pass it on’ (thanks Les). Follow it up, a bit like you might with football rumours. Ask who, which poll, and in which newspaper, and whether anyone criticized it.
Recognise too, there are political interests out to press your buttons and pull your plonker because they know you like simple explanations to complex problems, explanations about foreigners, blacks, snowflakes, do-gooders, etc. That’s what keeps Farage, Johnson and co. sitting pretty, while the majority struggle to get by. ‘Don’t look up at us, look down and punch down’, they say. So, we have those on the far-right pulling your strings and making you angry, and laughing at the show of prole on prole, elderly white poor against young black poor, poor Brits against poor foreigners…
Oh, and that quotation about simple explanations a few posts above? It was from Jonathan himself, a couple of months back on his Twitterfeed. It seems even he’s now seen the light and is prepared to climb down from the height of stupidity, manufacturing simple explanations to whip up the proles into a frenzy. Strange – I thought it was how they got Brexit done.
It’s a funny old world.
SO, basically anyone who disagrees with what amounts to a steaming pile of pc crap, is a gullible idiot who believes all the ‘lies’ fed to him/her by establishment fascists?
Me? Well I must be barking! I voted for BREXIT every opportunity I got, and I’m so going to vote for Mr Farage’s Reform Party. I hate the EU, (and funnily enough so did my mum who used to sell Militant outside Boots on the weekend.) I don’t like Johnson but I predicted he would be PM ten years ago. I’ll make another prediction right now. Nigel Farage will be Prime Minister, it will be his first general election victory, and it will be within the next ten to fifteen years.
As for BLM? I believe that ALL lives matter equally. I don’t care about the history of different races, we have all been slaves.
Everyone has the right to be proud of who they are, I’m Scunthorpe and English. Damn right I’m proud, why shouldn’t I be?