July 21, 2020 at 11:16 am #185705BloodyRubbishIronParticipantOffline
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The findings that Russia interfered in the Scottish independence referendum are deeply concerning. What’s more concerning is that the government didn’t think to look into alleged interference in subsequent elections and referendum, as if Russia’s modus operandi with the UK was to weaken the UK through breaking up the union alone.
They claim that Russia amplified leaks expressed by Corbyn, which I can very well believe, but nothing else is said. Handy that the Tories and Brexit was completely foolproof from Russian interference.July 21, 2020 at 8:40 pm #185764GurnelistaParticipantOffline
Registered On: April 2, 2014
Russia has long sought to destabilize the EU, which it would like to see fail. Why? Because its unity is a threat to Russia’s commercial and political power in the world.
The Russia Report shows there was substantial interference into Brexit. The use of the ‘soft’ power of social media to spread lies about the EU and immigration, and to target those who were open to suggestion on Facebook and elsewhere, with stories such as the one about accordion players getting EU grants to repair their bellows, is now confirmed.
And it’s not just the Putin who codded voters into thinking Britain would be better off outside the EU.
Another foreigner who has long meddled in British politics, egged them on to do exactly the same – Rupert Murdoch.
This country, and in particular the ordinary working people of towns like Scun., have been well and truly screwed up thanks to massive foreign influence by genuinely unelected powers.
And the same ‘patriots’ who fell victim to this sort of propaganda by the Russians and by Murdoch, consistently despise foreign interference in British affairs!
Ever had the feeling you’ve been cheated, dear Brexiters?July 21, 2020 at 9:52 pm #185778
Unfortunately some are too ideologically, financially or xenophobically driven (or a combination of those) to ever admit to being cheated.July 21, 2020 at 9:58 pm #185779
And it’s the same with religious fanatics. Can’t tell them anything, can’t reason with them. They don’t wonder why people call them idiots, they just get upset about it. In my opinion it’s because they know know very well they’re on shaky ground. Put them on the spot, keep debating and eventually they stop commenting or disappear. It’s no coincidence.July 21, 2020 at 10:00 pm #185780
If Brexit turns out to be a good thing I’ll be over the moon, not least for my children. Ain’t gonna happen though is it?July 21, 2020 at 10:07 pm #185782
I’m not ‘remoaning’ either before anyone accuses me of it. I’m quite sanguine about it. Just looking forward and scanning the horizon.July 22, 2020 at 1:20 pm #190662BloodyRubbishIronParticipantOffline
Registered On: September 7, 2015
The response to this from many Brexiters just exposes that national sovereignty was never truly dear to them, otherwise they’d be alerted to the potential for the UK to be a target of Russian interference, and an investigation which didn’t bother to investigate interference when this was known to be threat would be a concern.
I do not think there is enough evidence to damn the Brexit referendum or any election over this, so this shouldn’t be used to say that the result was false. However, it does show huge concerns in the democratic integrity of our system. A government which doesn’t bother to investigate this through fears of what could be used against past referendums is not one standing up for democracy, nor are those who shrug their shoulders at it, no matter how many times they point to voting figures or wills of the people. Democracy is more than just your side winning, it’s about fair and free elections, and this report just creates massive warnings over this in the UK.
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