March 3, 2021 at 12:21 pm #203026
And don’t be fooled by the good news from Sunak, the s***storm is in the post, end of March when he’s planning to announce cuts and tax rises. By that time a new Royals diversion will be gracing the headlines.March 3, 2021 at 1:44 pm #203030
“This thread, like many others, was pottering along amicably until you launched in with your “complete hypocite” and racist accusations banging on completely off topic on anti-Semitism in the Labour party.”
Well, thank you for pointing out what I’ve been saying for a very long time, Heath, which is how the ‘usual suspects’ make a post and then do nothing but pat each other on the back in their little left wing coterie. Yes, all very nice and cosy.
As for being ‘completely off topic’, you have to be joking. Here we have a racist complaining about racism. It doesn’t get much more hypocritical than that.
The other comments are pure opinion — absolutely nothing wrong with that, of course, but trying to claim these as ‘facts’ is a complete joke.
Of course some people are racist against MM and they’re appalling, but the notion that MM’s receiving greater criticism because of the colour of her skin is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to make political capital out of a very serious issue. What makes this even worse is the fact that MM could now be using the fact she’s black to fight racism but has chosen instead to make millions and doing so in the full glare of the public eye she and Harry claim not to want.
Sorry to break up your amicable little cabal.March 3, 2021 at 2:43 pm #203032
Nothing to break up here Buck’s, just as you reappearing on the scene have nothing constructive to add. Typical PR move and entirely predictable.March 3, 2021 at 5:37 pm #203044
Sorry to witness yet more contrariness for the sake of it. Same as on the other side. Always knows better, always a different opinion.March 3, 2021 at 6:11 pm #203049
“…the notion that MM’s receiving greater criticism because of the colour of her skin is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to make political capital”
This is a great example of the ‘ten percenters’ who deny even the most obvious of circumstances and situations, like Trump did throughout his presidency.
But the evidence is there for all to see. The press coverage has been monstrous since she and Harry decided to get wed. Harry in particular has had enough, they both want out, and are rightly explaining their reasons for doing so.
On top of that, here we have the nauseating spectacle of an advocate of mental health and all its seriousness, attacking a couple who are in retreat to preserve their sanity. Entirely predictable tho’.March 3, 2021 at 6:37 pm #203050BloodyRubbishIronParticipantOffline
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It's perfectly possible that the Royal Family are unwelcoming and the courtiers/media are nasty and some racist AND Meghan is not that nice to some people.
— Julie Owen Moylan (@JulieOwenMoylan) March 3, 2021March 3, 2021 at 6:49 pm #203052HeathParticipantOffline
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“Well, thank you for pointing out what I’ve been saying for a very long time, Heath, which is how the ‘usual suspects’ make a post and then do nothing but pat each other on the back in their little left wing coterie. Yes, all very nice and cosy”.
Thanks. I will also point that the person handing out the majority of the abuse on here is YOU, usually followed by the usual cry baby routine.
Don’t bother lecturing us again on mental health, because you clearly don’t care about others!!March 4, 2021 at 1:44 pm #203068LawsihateyouParticipantOffline
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I’m not suggesting racism doesn’t exist in Britain, especially unconsciously, but I can’t see any evidence of racism in any of the previous links.
Prince Harry clearly did previously have “a blind spot” as he thought it was acceptable to call one colleague his “little Paki friend” and another a “raghead”.
But that doesn’t mean the British Press or most of the British public – who called him out at the time BTW – are racist.
Fair enough, there’s no doubt some right-wing supporting papers do sometimes play to their own readers’ prejudice, especially on migration, but I don’t believe any have targeted Meghan Markle with negative stories due to her being black/bi-racial.
People who suggest so usually have a fairly transparent agenda and are essentially race-baiters IMHO, attempting to cause trouble and hatred rather than social change.
Clearly there have been a lot of negative headlines about Meghan, but these have been caused by a range of PR-blunders on her and Harry’s part, rather than anything to do with the colour of her skin.
The Press coverage – (social media is different) – before all these needless mistakes was almost completely positive and if anything showed an unconscious bias towards promoting the Royal Family to an almost sycophantic and embarrassing degree.
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Interesting points you make LIHY. Certainly adds value to the discussion.March 4, 2021 at 2:51 pm #203074NorthumbironParticipantOffline
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The British public love a Royal Wedding. That’s where the sycophantics come in.
However, they also demand that said couple conform to a set standard. Any deviation from such is seen as un-Royal.
We had all this 85 years ago with Edward VIII & Wallis Simpson. Yet the public seem more forgiving regarding the sexual shenanigans of Randy Andy and others before him.
The fact that Meghan is not only American but non-white just adds another dimension to it.March 4, 2021 at 6:02 pm #203089
“I can’t see any evidence of racism in any of the previous links.”
Once again Lawsi, it depends on how you define racism. It’s not just a question of using abusive language towards black people. It’s a lot more subtle, and has to do with exclusion and a lack of social acceptance, bullying, nasty jokes and so on, and an expectation that they’ll know their place, just as it used to be with the Irish.
And that’s what we see with the double standards of the press towards MM – the disdain, the cold shoulder, the bitchiness…
Some folk have a blind spot with their own prejudices, as Harry himself freely admits in the past. I don’t think he’s alone in that respect, but my point is to ask why the press behave like this.
True, they certainly set her up with fulsome praise on her wedding day in 2018, but quickly changed tack, as often happens.
Explaining the change by saying that it was because of some ill-judged PR decisions just doesn’t cut it. Where’s the evidence that, say, having her new baby joked about as a monkey is the result of a PR decision? Or those stories about her pregnancy at the head of this article:
Pretty much all the royals have failed to behave, obviously due to far more than “PR blunders” and one in particular may still end up in jail for it, yet they haven’t consistently attracted the negative attention which MM does.
So, why is this? It’s far too simplistic to imply it’s because of the colour of her skin.
Rather, MM is a challenge to the class system, a socially established hierarchy which expects black women to know their place.
Many Mail and Express readers love the class system and its pettiness. They typically resent anyone rocking that boat, a boat which they have boarded, sailed in and admired all their lives.
The problem is that, having been admitted to the pinnacle of the class system, as a black woman (and therefore at the bottom of it) MM has committed a cardinal sin of confidently refusing to be ground down, or to put up and shut up, about what she sees as unfair or wrong. In short, she’s resented by the popular press and especially their female readers, because she doesn’t know her place.
But Harry and his missus aren’t having it, and quite right too.March 5, 2021 at 12:47 pm #203104
“Once again Lawsi, it depends on how you define racism”
It certainly does, Gurny, and you should know given your highly selective definition.
Your entire comment is such a great example of confirmation bias that it should be used in psychology lectures.March 5, 2021 at 1:08 pm #203107
So how would you define racism, BI? You don’t say.
And I think you mean sociology, not psychology.March 5, 2021 at 2:44 pm #203112
Don’t think his nibs will surface till next week, he will be out buying enough dog biscuits to cover the weekend, nowt worse then a hungry dog, just howls all night keeping you awake.March 9, 2021 at 11:23 am #203226
I know I said I can’t really be bothered with the Royals stuff but it’s hard to ignore it at the moment. Just wondered if anyone had changed their position on the racism accusations since the Oprah programme came out?
Did anyone see this article and clip of the ‘royal expert’ liars? How embarrassing…March 9, 2021 at 11:47 am #203228
She deserves an Oscar for her performance last night. The poor Queen having to pick up the mess of a lying diva.March 9, 2021 at 12:09 pm #203230
Did anyone see this article and clip of the ‘royal expert’ liars? How embarrassing…
Reminds me of those Bru posters who agree with fictions about Turkish accordion players claiming benefits to fix their busted bellows!
All the gammons seem to be at boiling point this morning, whether they’ve seen the interview or not.
C’mon Big J, where’s the evidence she was lying? is that what you say when something makes you uncomfortable?March 9, 2021 at 12:42 pm #203232
The accounts of when the “racist” comment conflict, they wanted to live away from Royal money, but now treat that as a wrong and don’t mention that Anne or Edward’s children aren’t HRHs, despite it being a big issue for their kid.
She’s a manipulative and lying harlot. The only reason she gets sympathy is because demented libtards hate the UK and everything it stands for. They will side with anyone who diminishes it for woke cookies.March 9, 2021 at 12:45 pm #203233
According to Markle’s dad, the British aren’t racist. That’s that sorted out then 👏👏😂😂March 9, 2021 at 1:15 pm #203234
Someone with mental health problems repeatedly asking for help and not getting it – why would anyone go on tv and lie about that?
Money? They get attacked if they stay and get a sovereign grant, they get criticized if they want independence!
Publicity? They want to have more control over the dividing line between privacy and consent, i.e. it’s not ok to be hiding in bushes, etc.
Racism? It’s never been worse, from the royals, through the institutions, the fourth estate of the press, to the politicians.
Seems to me that a few people are simply angry that someone at the top of the ludicrous social hierarchy, in particular a black/biracial woman, can call it out and walk out, while others need to carry on putting up and sucking up its pettiness, unfairness its injustice, like BartonScorpion with his pathetic pension, and a few others on here.
H and M have opened the curtains, and now the biggest forelock-tuggers and flag-shaggers who are blaming them for what we see inside. We’re rightly ashamed of our own country, and what it has become. It makes us feel stupid. That is the real source of people’s anger.
Big J, if you’re exercised by H and M, wait till you hear the news about Andrew!March 9, 2021 at 1:46 pm #203240
Hopefully this is just another nail into the totally outraged monarchy and establishment coffin, we don’t need them, they are totally outdated, meaningless and expensive. Good luck Meghan and Harry, hope you find happiness and fairness in the USA.March 9, 2021 at 1:55 pm #203241NorthumbironParticipantOffline
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The poor Queen having to pick up the mess of a lying diva.
Sorry to have to tell you this, but the Queen doesn’t run the country. No Monarch has since 1685.
A high maintenance, celebrity tourist attraction. A dysfunctional family that suffers arguments, fall-outs and health issues, mental and otherwise just like millions of others.
Why are they still worshipped like deities?March 9, 2021 at 2:16 pm #203244
“So how would you define racism, BI? You don’t say.”
In the same way that Meghan Markle defines it, Gurny. Unlike you I’m not selective about what constitutes “racism” to suit my own political ends.
“And I think you mean sociology, not psychology.”
No I don’t, Gurny, which if you’re such an expert in psychology would be obvious to you.
Gurny, it’s amazing how you position yourself on racism and mental illness when it suits your personal agenda. The word hypocrite doesn’t do it justice. Yet here you are telling everyone how bad they are while you, yourself, are every bit as racist as they are. As for mental illness, you’re a joke.
Re MM, if the allegations she’s made are correct then the person concerned needs to own up and apologise for saying what they did. Full-stop.
Over and above that, however, I find it very strange indeed how Meghan and Harry claim they want privacy and respect on the one hand but then feel it necessary to spill the beans on prime time American TV. It also begs the question as to why Harry failed to support his wife at the time these things happened.
It’s pretty poor to blame royal aides about Meghan’s mental health when Harry could have very easily have made sure she was given the help she needed at the time. As someone who suffers from clinical depression I can tell you with 100% certainty that it isn’t something you can hide from anyone.
Likewise with the racist slur. Why didn’t Harry confront the person concerned and ensure it was dealt with by the family at the time?
Last but not least, Gurny, I’m not remotely ashamed of my country. You have to be totally naive or totally stupid to believe that the UK is any better or worse than any other — given what’s happened in the States they’re hardly in any position to be claiming the moral high ground on racism. Nor are you.March 9, 2021 at 2:55 pm #203246
More bovine, evidence-free Tory tribalism from the biggest hypocrite on the board. Not surprised at your national pride right now BI. Ten years of the Tories, Brexit, bankruptcies, recession, 125000 Covid deaths, record racism…… and you’re proud of Britain??
I suspect those of very low self-esteem identify most with the flag – being associated with something said to be exceptional is a way of making them feel exceptional. And, when the curtain’s pulled back on its ruling class in all its awfulness, when it’s rejected by the very same people who should support it, it makes them feel ashamed. That’s what we see right now.
And here we have a pregnant MM, bullied by the right-wing press. But never mind her mental health, or her husband’s. The tabloid press know best, so everyone should shut up.
Well, so should you, BI, because if that isn’t contradictory, what is? You make a pathetic pretense of being pro-mental health, pro-feminism, and anti-racism, and yet your posts are rammed with bigotry, misogyny, sexism and racism.
It’s an astonishing contortion reaching new levels of hypocrisy and prejudice!
Just for a moment, take a stroll in Harry’s shoes. Aged just 4, you lose your mother in a tragic accident as she’s pursued by the paparazzi. You are forced to walk behind her coffin as the world watches. Later, the media speculate about your parentage. Then, you meet a black girl, and decide to marry, but the press subject both of you to a barrage of bitchiness and racism.
Press coverage goes from bad to worse. Your first-born comes along and gets joked about as a monkey. So, with your wife stressed out and depressed, you decide to leave the country, and offer an interview about exactly why you’ve had enough.
I think that’s exactly what you’d do, and probably a lot worse.
And there you are now BI, a prattling cow-herd sniping from the sidelines, slagging off a preganant woman with mental health issues, defending the media’s double standards, while you’re ready to wave your own mental health sick note like a white feather when somebody says something you don’t like on a lowly football messageboard! What a hypocrite! What an invertebrate! You belong in a bin.
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The biggest hypocrite!!!!!!March 9, 2021 at 3:14 pm #203248
The nastiness of libtards on display by Gurnelista.
If the divas wanted privacy they shouldn’t be having interviews. They don’t get to decide what and what isn’t newsworthy.
You have no response to her lies.
As for the “racism,” give me a break! I am sick of hearing about cries of racism from snowflake libtards. Everything is racist these days. The flag, cartoon characters and what not. If I eat sushi I will be called racist because I am culturally appropriating Japanese food by the identity politics left. Meanwhile they can cry about evil whitey and not get called out for their hatred of white people. For some reason whites are the only race who can’t be proud, but blacks, Arabs and yellows can!
Thomas Markle is correct. The Brits and the Royals are not racist, outside of the offended minds of snowflakes who want racism to exist to whip themselves for white guilt.March 9, 2021 at 3:57 pm #203251
Stephen Colbert was pretty close ( and funny ) when he said, ” years of selective breeding have probably made the royal family racist ” and ” usually when the Brits see a lot of dark people they take over their country and make them play cricket “. Classic put down humour from the Yanks, Colbert is excellent.March 9, 2021 at 5:19 pm #203255
Lol, Thomas Markle, the fount of all knowledge! Who knew?March 9, 2021 at 5:28 pm #203258
Lol, BI storms out the virtual pub like Piers Morgan on steroids…March 9, 2021 at 5:55 pm #203259
Perhaps the funniest thing is Big J banging on about crying ‘snowflake libtards’ when he seems to be the only one crying over this on here. Like those ‘Proud Boys’ probably. All bravado, and really a bit frit of jail.
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