March 16, 2021 at 11:19 pm #203588NorthumbironParticipantOffline
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On the nurses’ pay rise thread Billpuntonsghost wrote: –
“Just wait until the Totalitarian/Marxist state takes over (and it will be soon than you think) your arguments against the government won’t be tolerated and your freedoms to express your opinion will be crushed”
Well there’s some truth there, as the Government’s controversial Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill got through it’s second reading tonight.
Only thing is of course, is that the party pushing this through is about as far away from being Marxist as you can get.
Right Wing supporters have been vociferous in their condemnation of Marxist/Leninist states like China, Cuba, Vietnam, Lao and North Korea (now recognised as more of a Juche system) whilst bigging-up the freedoms we enjoy as a western democracy. Well, enjoy it whilst you can because if Boris and Co get their way your dearly held freedoms will be whittled away bit by bit.
Many won’t realise this is happening as they’ll be too busy arguing about Meghan Markle’s pre-natal depression or worrying if they are the one person in a million who gets DVT after their Covid jab.
Yes indeed, stop the plebs from protesting and arm up a few of those Nuclear Warheads just in case. The future’s looking rosy and I’m not talking red flags!March 17, 2021 at 11:58 am #203596BloodyRubbishIronParticipantOffline
Registered On: September 7, 2015
And Conservatives have the cheek to make out that they care about state overreach and freedoms. Ha! However, I am sure that they will have their excuses for hypocrisy. We’re already getting the Orwellian talk of how they do support protest, but want it done correctly. Right, and how do we do protest correctly when the smallest thing can lead to a criminal offense? The events in Clapham Common shows why we can’t not be sceptical.
Moreover, how can such severe sentences be approved by anyone who care remotely about fairness and liberties? Potentially 10 years for defacing a statue? That’s more than what many heinous rapists get! So the moral is statues matter more than people, and all for what? A stupid culture war the government wants to stoke. I know that the 10 years is a maximum sentence, but the optics here are very bad. And all we’ll get from the ‘small state’ loving, ‘authority sceptical’ libertarian types is “if you’re a law abiding citizen, you have nothing to worry about.”
The real issue for them is silly students on campus making daft comments, not what the actual government does. Talk about a loss of perspective.
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